Is there a word for a thing that doesn’t make sense, a shiny alternative to ‘nonsense’?
I want to use it like: <-new-word>> politics, meaning stupid, nonsense politics.
Update: by ‘shiny’ I mean’t non-vulgar, non-tongue-twister word.
asked Aug 27, 2016 at 12:02
Alex JonesAlex Jones
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Depending on what you want with shiny, rare words with funny pronunciation and euphemisms could be used. With a rare word, the listener might feel less verbal violence than with a mere «crap». I suggest hokum:
a euphemism for nonsense (from Wiki disambiguation); Something apparently impressive or legitimate but actually untrue or insincere; nonsense (urban dictionary)
or folderal (alternative writings: folderol, falderal), which has an ornamental property (shiny enough?):
nonsense, ornamental objects of no great value (Merriam Webster), from a nonsensical line in old ballads
Finally, in France, abracadabrantesque was almost forgotten, and was
resurrected during a political interview.
The word comes from authors and poets Mario Proth, Théophile Gautier and Arthur Rimbaud. It looks like poetry, and it is, so maybe more acceptable. It refers to magic (same root as abracadabra) turned into an adjective and superlative. This word was almost forgotten for a century. Then, a former president used it in an interview (Chirac ou l’histoire abracadabrantesque). The journalist wanted to bring a question on a posthumous testimony about his alleged frauds. He used this word to characterize the whole story as «utter nonsense», suggesting it was made-up. The forgotten word has now come to use for the pleasure of many, especially journalists.
Here are some uses for the words above, mainly webpage titles. Opinions are not mine:
- Sanders, Trump and the Politics of Hokum
- Political folderol
- Famous Presidential Lies, Exaggerations, and Folderol
- Scientific Hokum and Its Destructive Political Agenda
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answered Aug 27, 2016 at 12:24
Laurent DuvalLaurent Duval
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There’s a word for that I’ve recently learned: malarkey (Merriam-Webster):
: foolish words or ideas : insincere or foolish talk
[M-W example:] He thinks everything politicians say is just a bunch of malarkey.
It’s an uncommonly used word: Google Books Ngram shows it used at 0.5% the frequency of nonsense. I you want something stronger and newer you can go for bullarkey. You don’t find it in conventional dictionaries, so we need the Urban dictionary here:
Total and complete nonsense; full of contradictions and completely ludicrous
“After the debate, the crowd felt the last politican’s statement was complete bullarky and he had no right to run.”
answered Aug 27, 2016 at 14:15
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«Nonsensical» would be the exact word you’re describing, and I can’t wrap my head around why you want to use something else instead.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/nonsensical
adjective
(of words or language) having little or no meaning; making little or no sense:
A baby’s babbling is appealingly nonsensical.(of behavior, conduct, actions, etc.) foolish, senseless, fatuous, or absurd:
His nonsensical behavior was unusual for such a serious person.
answered Aug 27, 2016 at 17:04
How about absurdity or farce politics?
From Merriam-Webster:
absurdity: the quality or state of being absurd
absurd: extremely silly, foolish, or unreasonable : completely ridiculous
farce: something that is so bad that it is seen as ridiculous
The OP’s example:
absurdity politics, meaning stupid, nonsense politics
farce politics, meaning stupid, nonsense politics.
Absurdity politics has the nice feature that it parallels and conjures identity politics.
answered Aug 28, 2016 at 0:52
Richard KayserRichard Kayser
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In terms of shiny words, I bet you could get away with hoopla or ballyhoo (which mean roughly the same thing. Look at froufrou or gobbledygook, too. Those are bright and nice. I suspect froufrou might be the one you want, due to the «ostentatious decoration» meaning. It’s going to depend on what you’re describing as nonsense, really.
answered Aug 27, 2016 at 12:25
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Jibberish politics?
unintelligible or meaningless speech or writing; nonsense.
answered Aug 27, 2016 at 14:19
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Bullshit — M-W
noun, usually vulgar nonsense; especially: foolish insolent talk
«Don’t bullshit me. Tell me the truth!»
«Stop bullshitting and tell me the truth.»
answered Aug 28, 2016 at 0:46
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pointless (oxforddictionaries.com)
ADJECTIVE
Having little or no sense, use, or purpose:
speculating like this is a pointless exercise
[WITH INFINITIVE]: it’s pointless to plan too far ahead
More example sentences:
It beggars belief how anyone with any sense could buy this pointless
drivel.Whichever way you cut it, it’s still too often a pointless exercise
for anyone writing for the consumer press.It’s a pointless exercise in negativity by both the Labor Party and
the Democrats.
answered Aug 27, 2016 at 14:33
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How about balderdash?
- senseless, stupid, or exaggerated talk or writing; nonsense. [Dictionary.com]
A description determined to be so fitting for deception and absurdity that a common board game took its name.
answered Aug 28, 2016 at 6:23
An answer that checks all your criteria, both including nonsense in the definition, and specifically alluding to politics, are the pair of
bunk (the 2nd word listing)
noun, Informal.
1. Humbug; nonsense.
[Dictionary.com]
or its original form, bunkum or buncombe:
noun
1. Insincere speechmaking by a politician intended merely to please local constituents.
2. Insincere talk; claptrap; humbug.
a word actually derived from the political grandstanding by a particular politician in the 1800s.
answered Aug 28, 2016 at 6:37
I don’t know if preposterous qualifies as a shiny word as it’s not new, but I like the alliterative sound of ‘preposterous politics’
preposterous
formal very silly or stupid:
Cambridge Dictionary
answered Aug 27, 2016 at 19:23
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I don’t understand exactly what you’re looking for
(we’re still waiting for an explanation of “shiny”), but:
in 1980, then-presidential candidate George H. W. Bush
referred to Ronald Reagan’s economic (a.k.a. “Reaganomics”)
as “voodoo economics”.
[Collins Dictionary] defines voodoo as
noun:
a religious cult involving witchcraft
and communication by trance with ancestors and animistic deities,
common in Haiti and other Caribbean islandsadjective:
relating to or associated with voodoo
so Bush was saying that Reaganomics was related to witchcraft,
and not sound theories and practices.
answered Aug 28, 2016 at 0:03
Garbage has multiple definitions that fit well (from Dictionary.com):
- Anything that is contemptibly worthless, inferior, or vile:
[There’s nothing but garbage on TV tonight.]- Worthless talk; lies; foolishness.
- Slang. Any unnecessary item added to something else, as for appearance only; garnish:
answered Aug 28, 2016 at 6:27
Specious has the meaning of «superficially pleasing» (i.e., shiny) but actually false:
1.
apparently good or right though lacking real merit; superficially pleasing or plausible:
specious arguments.2.
pleasing to the eye but deceptive.
answered Aug 28, 2016 at 20:58
Thomas JohnsonThomas Johnson
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If the thing that you are describing attempts to appear to make sense by following the form of something that actually does make sense, then the word is «pseudo». This is usually used as a prefix or a hyphenated prefix, though, rather than a separated word. Examples: pseudo-science, pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-post-modernism. Okay, I made up the last one.
I’m afraid, though, that most people would consider «pseudo-political» to be redundant. Kind of like «pseudo-economics», since some people assert that economics itself is pseudo-science.
answered Aug 27, 2016 at 19:43
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На основании Вашего запроса эти примеры могут содержать грубую лексику.
На основании Вашего запроса эти примеры могут содержать разговорную лексику.
несешь какую-то чушь
какую-то бессмыслицу
несешь какой-то бред
нет никакого смысла
не имеет никакого смысла
несешь чушь
Listen, you’re not making any sense, you know.
Daniel, you’re not making any sense.
I’m sorry, but you’re not making any sense right now.
Jimmy, you’re not making any sense.
Okay, you’re not making any sense.
She was so upset and not making any sense.
Even if there were some changed words in the articles, they were not making any sense and not only grammatically.
Даже если в статьях были какие-то измененные слова, они не имели никакого смысла и не только грамматически.
She’s not making any sense.
Alison, go slower, you’re not making any sense.
You’re not making any sense, love.
You’re not making any sense.
I know I’m not making any sense.
Я знаю, что говорю ерунду.
No, sweetheart, you’re not making any sense.
Then you’re not making any sense, woman.
Because y-you are not making any sense.
Malcolm, you’re not making any sense.
You’re not making any sense.
Lucy, you’re not making any sense.
You know you’re not making any sense.
Dad, you’re not making any sense.
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Examples of using
Not making any sense
in a sentence and their translations
Because I am listening and you’re not
making any
sense.
Потому что я слушаю, но не могу уловить смысл.
I am listening to you, and you aren’t
making
any
sense.
Я слушаю тебя, но не слышу ничего осмысленного.
Maybe I’m not
making any
sense now… but I will
make
a lot of
sense
tomorrow… when I explain the whole thing.
Может сейчас я и поступаю глупо,. но
завтра это будет совсем не
глупо,.
когда я все тебе объясню.
make any sense — перевод на русский
Well, that doesn’t make any sense.
В этом нет никакого смысла.
He hears us will not make any sense.
Он нас слышал и в этом нет никакого смысла.
She said something else, words that didn’t make any sense. Yes.
Она говорила кое-что еще, в чем не было никакого смысла.
It didn’t make any sense.
Не было никакого смысла.
But it doesn’t make any sense.
В этом нет никакого смысла.
Показать ещё примеры для «никакого смысла»…
Neither the play nor the message made any sense
Ни игра, ни послание не имеют смысла
— What she said doesn’t make any sense.
Ее слова не имеют смысла.
The plans were doctored. The maths doesn’t make any sense.
Чертежи — подделка, математические расчеты не имеют смысла.
And these phrases you keep speaking in don’t make any sense.
И эти фразы, что вы произносите. Они не имеют смысла.
Five, actually, on a normal day, but the words here don’t make any sense.
На пяти, вообще-то… в обычное время. Слова здесь не имеют смысла.
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It doesn’t make any sense.
Это бессмысленно.
It doesn’t make any sense to go on looking
Я возвращаюсь. Это бессмысленно.
I’m sorry It doesn’t make any sense
Прости, это бессмысленно…
— That doesn’t make any sense.
Но это бессмысленно.
Me and Tai. We don’t make any sense.
Я и Тай… это бессмысленно.
Показать ещё примеры для «бессмысленно»…
It never makes any sense.
В этом никогда нет смысла.
I told him… it didn’t make any sense… clipping you when we had you working for us.
Я ему говорил… нет смысла тебя убирать, если на нас ты и работаешь. А он не слушал.
But it doesn’t make any sense.
Но в этом вторжении нет смысла.
You said things and you did things that it didn’t make any sense to say and do.
Как я должен это сделать? Ты говорил что-то и делал что-то, поэтому нет смысла говорить и делать.
Sir, this doesn’t make any sense.
Сэр, в этом нет смысла.
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— Maybe, but you don’t make any sense at all.
— Может быть, но я вас не понимаю.
I don’t get this. This doesn’t make any sense.
Я не понимаю.
Doesn’t make any sense.
Ни черта не понимаю.
But, Dad, that doesn’t make any sense.
Папа, я не понимаю.
It doesn’t make any sense, Rachel.
Я не понимаю, Рейчел.
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I guess that doesn’t make any sense, does it?
Наверное это какая-то бессмыслица, не так ли?
It just doesn’t make any sense.
Это просто какая-то бессмыслица!
It doesn’t make any sense.
Какая-то бессмыслица.
— It doesn’t make any sense.
— Какая-то бессмыслица.
This doesn’t make any sense.
Это… это какая-то бессмыслица.
Показать ещё примеры для «какая-то бессмыслица»…
Excuse me, sir. Nine of us with peashooters doesn’t make any sense.
Простите, сэр, но наши пистолеты против батальона — это глупо!
Well, it didn’t make any sense that he’d know, but naturally, I checked out the circuit anyway.
Глупо предполагать, что он что-то знал, но я все равно проверил проводку.
Ethan, you’re not making any sense.
Итан, это же глупо.
— This doesn’t make any sense.
— Это глупо.
This «Runaway Greenhouse effect» caused the Venusian seas to boil and evaporate creating the dense atmosphere of its modern climate this theory is somehow absent from any discussion on Earth’s global warming which does not make any sense If our sister planet experienced the warming event identical to what we describe wouldn’t that prove that warming is a natural occurrence and not necessarily caused by men?
Эта «парниковая катастрофа» заставила Венерианские океаны вскипеть и испариться что создало плотную атмосферу ее современного климата когда речь идет о земном глобальном потеплении что само по себе глупо который мы сравниваем что потепление это естественное событие и не обязательно вызванное человеком?
Показать ещё примеры для «глупо»…
Doesn’t make any sense.
Бессмыслица.
Doesn’t make any sense at all, does it, Mr Poirot?
Оно оказалось в супе. Совершенная бессмыслица, правда, мистер Пуаро?
Clark, that doesn’t make any sense.
Кларк, это бессмыслица.
These don’t even make any sense.
Это же бессмыслица.
It doesn’t make any sense to me.
По мне, это бессмыслица.
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— You’re not making any sense
— Бред какой-то.
Ma, that doesn’t make any sense.
Мам, это бред какой-то.
— That doesn’t make any sense.
— Бред какой-то.
This doesn’t make any sense.
Бред какой-то!
You’re not making any sense.
Это какой-то бред.
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Does that make any sense? Yes, yes.
— Я понятно говорю?
This doesn’t make any sense, …why wouldn’t someone have told us this. I mean, why would they stop their research if they actually managed to turn it on?
Тогда ничего не понятно, почему нам об этом никто не сказал, и зачем было останавливать исследования, если им удалось их включить?
do what I’m saying make any sense to you?
То, что я говорю, тебе понятно?
So it doesn’t make any sense.
Ничего не понятно.
It just doesn’t make any sense.
Что-то не понятно.
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What are some words that do not make any sense in some cases ?
So, I’m still learning to navigate between the six cases and even though the amount of possible endings for every word seems huge, I figured there might be some words that, because of their meaning, are de facto only declinable in a limited number of cases.
If so, could you provide examples ?
Also, are the incorrect/impossible case inflections sometimes purposefully used in a comical way ?