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#1
Please advise the appropriate form of verb that can be used after «once» in the following circumstances.
«We will inform you about the examination result once completed.»
«We will inform you about the examination result once have completed.»
«We will inform you about the examination result once complete.»
«We will inform you about the examination result once it is completed.»
«We will inform you about the examination result once it has been completed.»
Last edited: May 29, 2015
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#9
Thanks. I have already amended all of the sentences.
So, would you please advise which sentence is correct?
‘once’ functions here as a conjunction, so its meaning is ‘as soon as’. All of the examples you have cited are correct; it depends on what you want to covey.
In the present tense:
once it completes (
something that runs on its own, say, a programme) or is completed (by somebody), I will submit the documents.
Here the emphasis lies in the current condition, the completed state. You may be describing a routine, a fact, or the process in general.
In the present perfect:
Once it has been completed, I will submit the documents.
Here you hint at the process that started some time in the past and is ongoing, and then you describe what you want to do after that. In this case, you are more likely to describe the particular process that you are now dealing with or has just dealt with. There is a retroactive element to this version.
But for general purpose and intent, the essential meaning is the same.
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Verb used in the sentence of «ONCE».
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24 Jun 2015, 06:02
Could anyone pls tell me which verb should be used in the sentences which use word «ONCE».
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himanshutyagi99 wrote:
Could anyone pls tell me which verb should be used in the sentences which use word «ONCE».
Dear himanshutyagi99,
I’m happy to respond. 
With all due respect, my friend, what you are asking really doesn’t make sense. We can use a wide variety of verbs in the English language with the word «once,» and a wide variety of tenses.
Almost any verb in the English in the past tense could be used with «once.»
Once I climbed the mountain, she respected me.
Once I started robbing banks, she respected me.
Once I could eat a whole bowl of ice cream by myself, she respected me.
Once I swam with dolphins, she respected me. etc.
We can also use «once» with verbs in the present tense to indicate a future condition:
Once she arrives, we will go to the restaurant together.
Once they sign the peace treaty, troops will be removed from the region.
None of these constructions are particular likely to be used on the GMAT. You see, the word «once» by its very nature, denotes something that has happened or will happen only one time. Such exceptional events are often anecdotal and usually not the subject of academic analysis. I have not seen the word «once» used in many official questions.
My friend, the best way to get a feel for how words are used in context is to read. See this blog:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/how-to-im … bal-score/
Does all this make sense? Does it answer your question?
Mike
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mikemcgarry wrote:
himanshutyagi99 wrote:
Could anyone pls tell me which verb should be used in the sentences which use word «ONCE».
Dear himanshutyagi99,
I’m happy to respond. With all due respect, my friend, what you are asking really doesn’t make sense. We can use a wide variety of verbs in the English language with the word «once,» and a wide variety of tenses.
Almost any verb in the English in the past tense could be used with «once.»
Once I climbed the mountain, she respected me.
Once I started robbing banks, she respected me.
Once I could eat a whole bowl of ice cream by myself, she respected me.
Once I swam with dolphins, she respected me. etc.
We can also use «once» with verbs in the present tense to indicate a future condition:
Once she arrives, we will go to the restaurant together.
Once they sign the peace treaty, troops will be removed from the region.
None of these constructions are particular likely to be used on the GMAT. You see, the word «once» by its very nature, denotes something that has happened or will happen only one time. Such exceptional events are often anecdotal and usually not the subject of academic analysis. I have not seen the word «once» used in many official questions.
My friend, the best way to get a feel for how words are used in context is to read. See this blog:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/how-to-im … bal-score/
Does all this make sense? Does it answer your question?
Mike
Dear Mike mikemcgarry
I have doubt about word «once». I read somewhere that «once» refers to the item coming immediately after «once».
following example was provided in book to support above rule.
Incorrect- Dinosaurs existed once
Correct- Dinosaurs once existed.
Unfortunately, i am not able to understand difference between above two examples. Could you please help me.
Regards,
Amm
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ammuseeru wrote:
Dear Mike mikemcgarry
I have doubt about word «once». I read somewhere that «once» refers to the item coming immediately after «once».
following example was provided in book to support above rule.
Incorrect- Dinosaurs existed once
Correct- Dinosaurs once existed.
Unfortunately, i am not able to understand difference between above two examples. Could you please help me.
Regards,
Amm
Dear Amm,
I’m happy to help.
I don’t know where you read that, but if you find the book, burn it. That’s a ridiculous rule. The word «once» is an adverb, and adverbs are relatively free in their placement.
Dinosaurs once roamed the planet. = correct, a more prosaic placement of the adverb
Dinosaurs roamed the planet once. = correct, a little more literary
Once, Dinosaurs roamed the planet. = correct, quite dramatic, a bit too histrionic for the GMAT
When the word «once» is used not as an adverb but as a subordinate conjunction, it has to come at the beginning of the clause, as all subordinate conjunction do.
Once the great meteor struck 65M years ago, the great reptiles were no more.
Once the students read Mike’s explanation of «once,» they understood the word better. (I hope!)
Does this make sense?
Mike
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Re: Verb used in the sentence of «ONCE».
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mikemcgarry wrote:
ammuseeru wrote:
Dear Mike mikemcgarry
I have doubt about word «once». I read somewhere that «once» refers to the item coming immediately after «once».
following example was provided in book to support above rule.
Incorrect- Dinosaurs existed once
Correct- Dinosaurs once existed.
Unfortunately, i am not able to understand difference between above two examples. Could you please help me.
Regards,
Amm
Dear Amm,
I’m happy to help.
I don’t know where you read that, but if you find the book, burn it. That’s a ridiculous rule. The word «once» is an adverb, and adverbs are relatively free in their placement.
Dinosaurs once roamed the planet. = correct, a more prosaic placement of the adverb
Dinosaurs roamed the planet once. = correct, a little more literary
Once, Dinosaurs roamed the planet. = correct, quite dramatic, a bit too histrionic for the GMAT
When the word «once» is used not as an adverb but as a subordinate conjunction, it has to come at the beginning of the clause, as all subordinate conjunction do.
Once the great meteor struck 65M years ago, the great reptiles were no more.
Once the students read Mike’s explanation of «once,» they understood the word better. (I hope!)
Does this make sense?
Mike
Thank you Mike. It makes sense
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Из прошлого урока вы узнали, как используется союз as soon as — как только, после того, как. На этом уроке мы разберем похожий на него по значению союз once — после, когда, стоит только. Вы узнаете, в чем разница между once и as soon as, а также как используется once в предложениях с причиной и следствием.
Содержание:
- Значение союза once и его отличие от as soon as.
- Once — «стоит только».
- Упражнения.
Значение союза once и его отличие от as soon as
Союз once похож по значению на as soon as, он значит «как только», «после того, как», «когда».
Once we finish the project, we will celebrate it. — Когда / после того, как закончим проект, мы это отпразднуем.
I will text you once I get on the plane. — Я тебе напишу, когда / после того, как сяду на самолет.
Однако существует разница между as soon as и once.
В отличие от as soon as, у союза once нет оттенка срочности. Сравните:
I will call you as soon as I get the parcel. — Я позвоню тебе, как только (сразу же после того, как) получу посылку.
I will call you once I get the parcel. — Я позвоню тебе, когда (после того, как) получу посылку.
Оба варианта подразумевают, что я получу посылку и позвоню, но вариант с as soon as больше подчеркивает срочность события: получу и тут же позвоню.
Другой пример:
We can buy a new car as soon as we sell the old one. — Мы можем купить новую машину, как только продадим старую.
Once we sell the old car, we can buy a new one. — После того, как продадим старую машину, мы сможем купить новую.
В первом варианте подразумевается, что мы продадим одну машину и тут же купим другую. Во втором между продажей и покупкой может пройти какое-то время.
Еще пример:
Once we have enough money, we can go for vacation. — Когда у нас будет достаточно денег, мы поедем в отпуск.
As soon as we have enough money, we can go for vacation. — Как только у нас будет достаточно денег, мы поедем в отпуск.
В первом варианте между моментом, когда денег стало достаточно и поездкой в отпуск пройдет какое-то время. Во втором подразумевается, что как только деньги будут, мы тут же едем в отпуск.
Союз once может использоваться как «стоит только…», «стоит», «стоит… как» в русском языке.
Once you open Pandora Box, there is no way back. — Стоит только открыть Ящик Пандоры, пути назад нет.
Once в этом случае по значению близок к «после», но между двумя действиями подчеркнута причинно-следственная связь.
Возьмем предложение:
Once you start lying to your family, you lie more and more.
Его можно перевести так:
После того, как начнешь лгать своей семье, лжешь все больше и больше.
Но более точно смысл передает этот перевод, поскольку в нем делается акцент на причинно-следственной связи.
Стоит только начать лгать своей семье, как ты лжешь все больше и больше.
Еще примеры:
Once I quit smoking, I felt much better. — Стоило мне только бросить курить, как я стал чувствовать себя намного лучше.
Once you eat a candy, you can’t stop. — Стоит тебе съесть конфетку, ты не можешь остановиться.
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#1
Hi Everyone!
Although I’ve spoken English well for quite a long time, I still am trying to get an in-depth understanding of all Perfect Tenses, which do not exist
in Russian, and I am still learning all subtleties.
Today I run into a situation with the following sentences:
(1) After you’ve finished the document, you’ll feel incredibly well
or
(2) After you’ve created a new account, proceed with editing your
profile.
Am I right to assume that the perfect construct in the first tense is saying the result of the finished document is alwailable at all the points in time when I am feeling well,
And the second encourages to make sure that there is a result in the form of a new created account before proceeding to the next stage.
I am still learning to think in English, and although I perfectly understand the concept of a result at the present/duration etc., some subtleties are still elusive.
Thanks in advance.
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#2
Item 1) This does not make a lot of sense — it is not clear what is meant here.
Item 2) Yes! this makes sense and invites the user to proceed to the next level of the account creation process.
Last edited: Aug 4, 2010
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Likewise, I’m not clear on what exactly (1) is saying. The difference between (2) and the simple present ‘after you create’ is very slight. Here I feel something is different, but can’t put it into words. The difference would be a bit clearer with, for example:
(3) After you create an account here, reply to the verification e-mail.
(4) After you’ve created an account here, you can post on any of the forums.
‘After’ + present tense is appropriate for a sequence of two events, one following the other. In (3) you have to do two things in succession: create the account, then confirm it by e-mail. In (4) however, posting on forums is something you can do at any time at all, once the account exists. It’s not a sequence of two events. This is the characteristic use of the perfect: a state was brought into being in the past, and it still applies now.
However, the tenses in (3) and (4) could still be swapped around. Then you’d have the subtle difference in (2) again, with the difficulty of explaining the choice.
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#4
Thanks a lot for replying to my mail. You’ve cast some light on the matter
These subtleties are sometimes killing me!
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#5
Hi everyone!
I have exactly the same concern as entangledbank. I’m trying to understand what the perfect tense adds to the meaning.
Could it be that it emphasises a result? or the fact that the the state denoted by the verb is over?
Let’s consider a phrase like:
«after you’ve finished your homework you can go out to play».
Now, the same phrase, this time with a present tense:
«after you finish your homework you can go out to play».
The use of the perfect here (at least for me) emphasises the idea that we have a finished product, whereas the sentence with the present tense does not.
And there’s also the issue of a finished state: «after he’d stopped running, he began with the rest of his exercising routine». For me the perfect tense emphasises that idea of a finished state.
What do you think?
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#6
susantash,
I agree with you. To my mind it is the point about the previous completed state. To take your example:- «after you’ve (you have) finished your homework you can go out to play.»
This is preferable in my opinion to :- «after you finish your homework etc…..» although both are communicating the same message the first «feels» more acceptable to my British English ears.
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#7
Which sentence is correct? Are there any differences?
1) once the business plan has beem approved, we will/ would be able to proceed.
2) as soon as the business plan is approved we will be able to proceed.
3) once the business plan will have been approved, we will/ would be able to proceed.
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#8
Which sentence is correct? Are there any differences?
1) once the business plan has beem approved, we will/ would be able to proceed.
2) as soon as the business plan is approved we will be able to proceed.
3) once the business plan will have been approved, we will/ would be able to proceed.
1) Once the business plan has been approved, we will be able to proceed.
(Completing the action in the past thereby allowing the next future action)
Or in the sense of «conditional» upon approval of the plan the next action «would» happen.
2) Acceptable as written
3) Not necessary to write «will have been» simply as 1) «has been» completed past action.
Hope this helps.
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#9
Both actions (approving, proceed) are in the future. Neither action is completed in the past.
In AE, sentence 1 (using «will») and sentence 2 are correct. Sentence 3 is wrong.
1) once the business plan has been approved, we will/
would
be able to proceed.
2) as soon as the business plan is approved we will be able to proceed.
3) once the business plan will have been approved, we will/ would be able to proceed.
«Once» and «as soon as» both mean «after», so the same meaning can be written this way:
4) After the business plan is approved we will be able to proceed.
Both «is» and «has been» are correct for a future action inside an «once/as soon as/after» clause. The sentence is talking about a moment in time after that happens: at that moment in time, approving is in the past and proceeding is in the future.
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#10
Hi Everyone!
Although I’ve spoken English well for quite a long time, I still am trying to get an in-depth understanding of all Perfect Tenses, which do not exist
in Russian, and I am still learning all subtleties.Today I run into a situation with the following sentences:
(1) After you’ve finished the document, you’ll feel incredibly well
or
(2) After you’ve created a new account, proceed with editing your
profile.Am I right to assume that the perfect construct in the first tense is saying the result of the finished document is alwailable at all the points in time when I am feeling well,
No.
And the second encourages to make sure that there is a result in the form of a new created account before proceeding to the next stage.
No.
I am still learning to think in English, and although I perfectly understand the concept of a result at the present/duration etc., some subtleties are still elusive.
Thanks in advance.
Because of the present perfect in these sentences, you can replace «after» with «when» without changing the meaning. With simple present, you could not do that.
Past tense would not work at all in the «after» clause because «will», in the main clause, is present tense.