One word inside another

Is there a word for a second word which is contained in the first word, as in, for example, the word end in the word friend?

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asked Feb 22, 2014 at 18:36

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The best I could come up with is «subword«:

A subword of a word is a sequence of at least 2 letters obtainable by removing (possibly zero) letters from the beginning and end; it is proper if at least one letter is removed.

Though this concept is simply mentioned regarding to word games mainly, it even branches out to mathematical and computational linguistics. It is considered as substring and subsequence in some of the cases as well.

This concept is mentioned in compound structures and agglutination also.

answered Feb 22, 2014 at 20:21

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Rebus puzzles are fun and challenging brainteasers. The first tip for solving rebus puzzles to is to know a large collection of common words and phrases. Without a baseline knowledge of famous sayings, quotes, literature, clichés and even popular culture, it will be very difficult to solve rebus puzzles. Most adults will do just fine, but some younger puzzlers might not be familiar with a phrase like «up the creek without a paddle» or the TV show «All in the Family.»

The next tip for solving rebus puzzles is to think about the words in the puzzle as objects, not just words. Consider how the words (objects) have been manipulated. Are they written in very small or very large letters? Are they written vertically going up or down? Is one word over or under another word? Is one word inside the other? Is a word repeated a specific number of times? All of these observations will give you clues to the meaning of the rebus puzzle. Let’s look at some examples, starting with the one from the previous page:

If you just read the words, the puzzle says «Earth Earth.» But consider the direction of the words. They’re written vertically instead of horizontally. You could say they’re written «down.» Then there’s the fact that Earth is written two times. With the clues «down,» «two» and «Earth,» it isn’t long before you have your solution: «Down to Earth.» Let’s try another one:

«Pawalkrk» isn’t a word, so let’s look a little closer. Whenever you see a word that looks like gibberish, try to break it into smaller words. In this case, the word «walk» is embedded inside the word «park.» Placing one word inside another is a popular rebus puzzle trick. Once you realize that there’s a «walk» in the «park,» you have your solution: «A walk in the park.» Let’s look at one more example of positioning:

Over and under, right and left, next to and beside are all popular rebus puzzle clues. Try saying the position of the words out loud as you read them. «Arrest over you’re.» That isn’t a phrase. «Arrest above you’re.» Not quite. «You’re under arrest.» Bingo!

Blanks, spaces and unusual separations are also very popular rebus puzzle clues. Try these two puzzles, using two different words for the empty spots. Scroll down to the bottom for the solutions.*

For lots more tips and information on family-friendly games and entertainment, take a look at the HowStuffWorks links on the next page.

*(«Point blank range» and «Space invaders»)

Originally Published: Jul 21, 2011

  • #1

Hello!

This is my first time here at the forum. I’m a writer working on a novel, and I’ve hit a brain fade when it comes to a specific, unsual word.

I need to know the word for «a word that has another word embedded in it.»

For a pop culture reference as an example, on «Sex in the City» when Carrie asked Mr. Big if he’d ever been in love, he responded:

«Abso-f**king-lutely»

If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. I know the word exists, but I’ve been scouring my references for sesquipedalians (big words), and I can’t find it.

Much thanks,
Silas

BTW, I found this forum because I did a search for «word lovers forum». After I registered, I realized the main intent was to help people translate from other languages. So if this is off the subject of the forum’s intended use, my sincere apologies.

  • cuchuflete


    • #2

    Welcome to the Dark and Stormy Forums,

    Yes, we are word lovers. Look around this forum…grammar, syntax, and affection for a good turn of phrase, interspersed with some delightful digressions. It’s like a fine fat old eiderdown pillow, with some feathers escaping out the ends.

    I don’t know the word you are after, but I trust one or more colleagues—we call ourselves foreros—will.

    regards,
    Cuchuflete

    • #3

    DarkandStormyKnight said:

    Hello!

    This is my first time here at the forum. I’m a writer working on a novel, and I’ve hit a brain fade when it comes to a specific, unsual word.

    I need to know the word for «a word that has another word embedded in it.»

    For a pop culture reference as an example, on «Sex in the City» when Carrie asked Mr. Big if he’d ever been in love, he responded:

    «Abso-f**king-lutely»

    If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. I know the word exists, but I’ve been scouring my references for sesquipedalians (big words), and I can’t find it.

    Much thanks,
    Silas

    BTW, I found this forum because I did a search for «word lovers forum». After I registered, I realized the main intent was to help people translate from other languages. So if this is off the subject of the forum’s intended use, my sincere apologies.

    From dictionary.com
    infix — «Linguistics. To insert (a morphological element) into the body of a word»

    Not sure if that was what you’re looking for,
    -Jonathan.

    cuchuflete


    • #4

    Hello again…this seems close, but no seeegar:

    A portmanteau word is a word that fuses two function words. This use overlaps a bit with the folk term contraction, but linguists tend to avoid using the latter. Example: In French, à (to) + les (the) becomes aux (IPA: /o/), a single indivisible word that contains both meanings.
    [edit]

    Folk usage

    Outside linguistics, the words that are called blends are popularly labeled portmanteaux. The term portmanteau is used in a different, yet still not clearly defined sense, to refer to a blending of the parts of two or more words (generally the first part of one word and the ending of a second word) to combine their meanings into a single neologism.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmanteau#Portmanteau_words

    cuchuflete


    jinti


    • #6

    This link has a couple paragraphs about infixes such as abso-f***ing-lutely.

    majlo


    • #7

    Cuchu, how would the pronunciation sound?

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    • #8

    Tmesis!

    Thank you so much, especially for the surprisingly quick replies.

    I kept trying to come up with the world, and what showed up instead was aposiopesis, and I couldn’t figure out why.

    Thanks, thanks, thanks. I and my literary character thank you.

    Silas

    cuchuflete


    • #9

    Hi Majlo,

    I don’t have the requisite skills to use a phonetic alphabet (that’s a highfallutin way of declaring my sloth…I just haven’t taken the trouble to learn…) so I’ll explain what my dictionary
    shows.
    The ‘e’ in red should be turned upside down, and the ‘e’ in blue has a horizontal line above it.
    te me´ sis

    I take this to mean that it sounds like the way I might pronounce tuh me sis, with the accent on the middle syllable.

    cuchuflete


    • #10

    Silas,
    Come back with more… absoneologisticallutely!

    • #11

    can’t we use the expression ‘nested words’?

    panjandrum


    • #12

    jpdeweerdt said:

    can’t we use the expression ‘nested words’?

    Gasp of mock shock and horror…
    What! When there’s a chance to give another airing to the only word in English that begins «tm…»:D

    I suspect that DarkandStormy’s literary figure needs tmesis.

    DarkandStormy: In relation to the BTW in your first post, as this particular alley-way is the English-Only forum, translation doesn’t feature — other than translation between the many, many different varieties of English.
    You should find that a good puzzle, such as those you have set for us, has people tumbling over one another in a confused and delightful scrum trying to get to the right word first.

    (Is the literary work really a bid for Bulwer-Lytton fame?)

    judkinsc


    • #13

    Tmesis is direct from ancient Greek. :D

    • #14

    panjandrum said:

    translation doesn’t feature

    sorry, it’s just that I had already heard this expression in English.

    Jean Paul

    NB : what does BTW stand for?

    panjandrum


    • #15

    BTW = By the way….
    If you look at the first post in this thread, you’ll see that DarkandStormyKnight used BTW to introduce some comments at the end of the post — to which I was responding. Sorry if I have been confusing. I’ll edit my post to clarify….

    • #16

    BTW : Right, that’s what I thought, but I couldn’t figure out what you meant by that in your post. I thought this was meant to me…

    Thanks for this site!

    majlo


    • #17

    What about the pronunciation? :)

    Kelly B


    • #18

    See cuchuflete’s post #9. Then ask Crystal to say it for you.

    • #19

    I looked up tmesis in two not-online dictionaries and found a slightly different definition. I think that words such as the expletive example above are probably a fairly new phenomenon to which the word tmesis has been applied for lack of a better word to describe it.

    tmesis — separation of parts of a compound word by the intervention of one or more words (as what place soever for whatsoever place) [from Websters Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary (c) 1985 by Merriam-Webster, Inc.]

    tmesis — separation of the parts of compound word by one or more intervening; for example, where I go ever instead of wherever I go. [from the American Heritage College Dictionary, third edition, (c) 1997 Houghton Mifflin]

    Since the practice of inventing new combined words in this manner is so popular, maybe someone will coin a new word for it. If someone does come up with a better term, it will probably be easier to pronounce and spell than tmesis.:)

    cuchuflete


    • #20

    My big paper dictionary has a definition that absoempaticallutely
    works: The interpolation of one or more words between the parts of a compound word.

    • #21

    cuchuflete said:

    My big paper dictionary has a definition that absoempaticallutely
    works: The interpolation of one or more words between the parts of a compound word.

    Right…compound words. Absolutely is not a compound word, so the traditional dictionary definition of tmesis doesn’t fit precisely. Lacking a better word, it will have to do.

    cuchuflete


    • #22

    Sabelotodo said:

    Right…compound words. Absolutely is not a compound word, so the traditional dictionary definition of tmesis doesn’t fit precisely. Lacking a better word, it will have to do.

    Intuition and common sense are on your side, for certain. And yet…if you dig around a little…in the murky depths I normally try to avoid…

    A compound is a word (lexeme) that consists of more than one free morpheme.

    wikipedia

    In morpheme-based morphology, a morpheme is the smallest language unit that carries a semantic interpretation. Morphemes are, generally, a distinctive collocation of phonemes (as the free form pin or the bound form -s of pins) having no smaller meaningful members. English example: The word «unbelievable» has three morphemes «un-«, (negatory) a bound morpheme, «-believe-» a free morpheme, and «-able». «un-» is also a prefix, «-able» is a suffix. Both are affixes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morpheme

    panjandrum


    • #23

    Digging into the OED, tmesis dates from rather a long time before the XXX-eme fad emerged. It did indeed originally refer to splitting what they thought of in the 16th Century as a compound word — typically into its original constituents.

    1586 DAY Eng. Secretary II. (1625) 83 Timesis or Diacope, a division of a word compound into two parts, as, What might be soever unto a man pleasing,..for, whatsoever might be, etc.

    There seems to be a whole army out there discussing whether or not abso-bloody-lutely is tmesis or not. I seem to have exceeeded the limit of my tolerance for such discussion by some way — so I think I’ll just pretend that tmesis is OK in this context. After all if DarkandStormyKnight includes this in his book the consequent flames of controversy will do his sales no end of good:D

    • #24

    I would call it a play on words :)

    -GA

    • #25

    Surely, Gwynanne, it is a play ‘in’ words?;)

    • #26

    maxiogee said:

    Surely, Gwynanne, it is a play ‘in’ words?;)

    See, I knew someone could coin a clever new term for it!

    • #27

    cuchuflete said:

    Welcome to the Dark and Stormy Forums,

    Yes, we are word lovers. Look around this forum…grammar, syntax, and affection for a good turn of phrase, interspersed with some delightful digressions. It’s like a fine fat old eiderdown pillow, with some feathers escaping out the ends.

    I don’t know the word you are after, but I trust one or more colleagues—we call ourselves foreros—will.

    regards,
    Cuchuflete

    By the way Chu, what is the meaning of this word «forereo» if any?

    • #28

    forero = people who frequent a forum.

    Isotta


    cuchuflete


    • #30

    maxiogee said:

    forero = people who frequent a forum.

    Hi Rich,
    Maxiogee got it nearly perfect. It’s people who frequent these
    WR forums. Over a year ago, when we were far less stringent about chat, a number of forum members joined a thread in the Recursos/Resources sub-forum, and picked a name for us.

    Forero from the Spanish foro (English=forum). We have been using it since around October or November of 2005, and most people seem to prefer it to dry terms like members.

    If you use Search, and look in Recursos, you will find the orginal thread.

    regards,
    Cuchu

    ayed


    • #31

    DarkandStormyKnight said:

    Hello!

    This is my first time here at the forum. I’m a writer working on a novel, and I’ve hit a brain fade when it comes to a specific, unsual word.

    I need to know the word for «a word that has another word embedded in it.»

    For a pop culture reference as an example, on «Sex in the City» when Carrie asked Mr. Big if he’d ever been in love, he responded:

    «Abso-f**king-lutely»

    If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. I know the word exists, but I’ve been scouring my references for sesquipedalians (big words), and I can’t find it.

    Much thanks,
    Silas

    BTW, I found this forum because I did a search for «word lovers forum». After I registered, I realized the main intent was to help people translate from other languages. So if this is off the subject of the forum’s intended use, my sincere apologies.

    Well, let a native-non-speaker give you his own prey:

    Dystmesis
    :)

    suzi br


    • #32

    maxiogee said:

    Surely, Gwynanne, it is a play ‘in’ words?;)

    great — this is what I will be calling the phenomenon when I next need to refer to it!

    but I’ve also seen in-fixing used, cos it related to the other words in the same semantic field: suffix and affix and prefix…

    this makes a lot more sense to me than trying to learn how to spell tmesis :)

    • #33

    It might be called an in-tensifier ;-)
    I’d be wary of the ~fix notion as (amongst other reasons) suffix and prefix tend to be used of only parts of words.

    • #34

    Sabelotodo said:

    Since the practice of inventing new combined words in this manner is so popular, maybe someone will coin a new word for it. If someone does come up with a better term, it will probably be easier to pronounce and spell than tmesis.:)

    What about «adferb»:D

    But I still think Cuchu’s tmesis is the correct existing word and that it just hasn’t been brought into the 21st century yet.

    ayed


    • #35

    maxiogee said:

    It might be called an in-tensifier ;-)
    I’d be wary of the ~fix notion as (amongst other reasons) suffix and prefix tend to be used of only parts of words.

    What about «Intransifier» ?

    timpeac


    • #36

    Would it count for the incorrect unfusing of «another» when you hear things like «just a final nother thing…»

    suzi br


    • #37

    maxiogee said:

    I’d be wary of the ~fix notion as (amongst other reasons) suffix and prefix

    that is true — but is it relevant? there is nothing in the etymology of these words which relates to the nature of the bit being fixed … I like infix cos it is simple!

    L. suffixus from sub «upon» + figere «fasten» prefix from L. præfixus, «fix in front,» from præ «before» + root of figere «to fasten, fix»

    • #38

    majlo said:

    What about the pronunciation? :)

    I’ve actually used the word tmesis among other people using the word tmesis, and in AE, it is t-MEE-siss. The «t» is unvoiced and pronounced separately, and the middle syllable is voiced.

    However, if you say tuh-Mee-siss, we’ll forgive you.;)

    Also, when you learn classical (i.e., Greek and Roman) rhetoric, abso-fuckin-lutely is usually given as an example of tmesis.

    • #39

    suzi br said:

    that is true — but is it relevant? there is nothing in the etymology of these words which relates to the nature of the bit being fixed … I like infix cos it is simple!

    So it’s a duel you want?
    We stand back to back and walk off into the distance spreading our favourites and meet back at the same place in a year’s time and see if either has made it into popular usage?
    You’d probably win because, as you say, it is simple and people like to go with simple, usually.
    I, however, would be content with my witty construction and would be happy if even one or two were to take it up — even occasionally.

    My point about the fix of infix is that what is being infixed is not a part of a word, it is a whole word. I feel that
    —interception—
    Ah feck!
    I’ve just looked up suffix and prefix in Chambers English Dictionary. Each of the definitions use the word ‘an affix’. Looking up affix I find it refers to the part of a suffix, a prefix or — wait for it — an infix.
    So it seems that the word is there all along.
    You win.:cool: — I yield.:eek:

    • #40

    A neologism is a word that is made up, often by combining two words in the «embedded word» fashion. I know, it is not exact, but it is possibly a little more common than tmesis.

    It took me forever to remember it though.

    :)
    GA

    • #41

    Surely a neologism is any new word — and the term tells one nothing about the word except that it is new.

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    • TMESIS

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      the first letter is T, the second letter is M, the third letter is E, the fourth letter is S, the fifth letter is I, the last letter is S

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