L word generation q отзывы

I’m biased in writing this since I’m comparing the original but one can’t help do that when some of the same cast members are in this one. What I loved about the first one was it’s rawness, it’s artiness, it’s intellect. No one, besides Bette maybe, was established and you’re watching this group of gay friends find their way in life with all the drama in tow. Some storylines were risqué for the time, which made it all the more interesting. Cut to now and all of our beloved characters are well established, living these high flying lives that just seems so untrue to the characters that they were and it takes away a certain quality and relatability from them. We’re now expected to find this in these new characters but the writing just doesn’t quite live up to that same quirky standard. I understand this is a different show and perhaps they had to sell it that way to bring it back, perhaps they felt they needed a younger generation for a younger audience to relate to. It’s not a bad show and the new characters aren’t terrible, but there’s a certain depth missing here. There was more to the L Word than affairs, it was about power dynamics, whilst at the same time being goofy and at times off the wall. GQ seems lost in a soap opera style drama and that comedic aspect seems absent. Which for an audience still deprived of real representation in the mainstream, might not seem that bad, but for others expecting more than this, you’ll likely be disappointed.

Edit: the new season picked up, likely due to Tina and Bette coming back together. But it seemed slightly tacky in my opinion, just for viewers sake that love Tibette, it didn’t seem so raw, more just wanting to appeal to the audience. The other characters have certainly improved in terms of likability. Alice is the star of the show, it would be nothing without her.

I loved the ORIGINAL L. Word. I loved being transported to the beautiful lush green environment of L. A. with its sunny coffee shops and backyard swimming pools. I missed watching the day to day drama that took place between unique and relatable characters who introduced us to the creative world of magazine writers, art directors and sports figures. Everyone was so much fun to watch as they gathered in their favourite coffeehouse each with their own story.

In the sequel we’re transported to the world of office buildings, office rooms and noisy bars filled with uninteresting people. The actresses who so brilliantly played Bette, Shane and Alice in the original seemed uncomfortable and wooden in their roles which was hard to watch. New characters randomly pop in and out with nothing unique or special to add. So disappointing. Sadly, I tuned out after 4 episodes.

This is my fourth rewrite and probably my last. After season 1 of the reboot, I mused about giving it 5 or 6 stars and ended up with 7 because despite its many flaws, I couldn’t turn away. Season 2 does nothing to address those flaws and only amplifies them.

At the heart of the issue is the truly dismal writing and recycled plots. What I mean by the latter is that every episode feels like the last — lovers hook up for a 45 minute relationship, go their separate ways, and move on to someone else in the circle. A long term relationship is maybe two episodes. The sex is furtive, clawing, and frantic Passion quickly turns to disillusionment. Couples mate and run. There’s virtually no romance or tenderness to be found.

Many user reviews criticize the acting and justifiably so. Leisha Haley (Alice) is the only actor who seems comfortable in her role in both seasons. In season 2, Kate Moernig (Shane) starts to mature and surprisingly, so does Leo Sheng (Micah). As for the rest of the cast, Jennifer Beals looks like she knows how badly her character is written and and can’t help turning Bette into a self-caricature. Jacqueline Toboni, insufferable as Finley, is completely over the top and slides further downhill as the episodes progress.

Shane and Micah are the only ones who show the remotest sign of character growth. Given that that the story is set in LA, you’d think that someone would be seeing a therapist. And what’s with the cinematography? In contrast to the original, the dark interiors make GenQ seem like film noir without the noir.

Edited excerpts from my review of January, 2020, which followed Season 1:

1. Nice to see several of our favorite characters return to reprise their roles from the original.

2. Let’s face it — GenQ is a soap set in an atypical milieu. It’s not that far from the original in its absurd story lines, it’s just that the original had more finesse and imagination. It was also educational in the way it presented the nuances of lesbian culture.

3. Unlike most of the lesbian and gay couples I know, there are no long-term, stable relationships shown here.

4. There are some truly annoying characters — mainly Finley (Jacqueline Toboni) and Jose (Freddy Miyares), the latter now thankfully gone.

5. As for the acting, a lot of it seemed under-rehearsed or perhaps the product of one or two takes. I have to blame the directors for many of the cringe-worthy performances or for settling for whatever the actors gave them, but it could have been questionable casting.

How many more experienced actors didn’t audition or turned down parts because of the graphic sexuality (mainly in Season 1) — deep kisses, gratuitous nude scenes, and mucho faux sex. In the original, Jennifer Beals (Bette) was never exposed past her underwear or she discreetly covered her breasts when she was shown naked in bed with a lover (true, too, of Marlee Matlin, Cybill Shepherd, Jane Lynch, and other A-listers). Clearly she had enough star power to draw her own lines, while newcomers had to accept what they were offered — well, it’s better than waiting tables forever.

I really don’t have a problem with sex scenes, graphic or not, but they need to make sense in the context of the story. There was something about the graphic sexuality in the original L-Word that seemed more right, especially in the early Jenny Schecter story line when she’s finding her voice as a writer and exploring her sexuality.

6. As the risk of beating this to death, much of the dialogue has real issues. When I can sit on the couch and practically mouth the next lines word-for-word before the characters speak them, then something’s wrong. Many of the conflicts between the couples were so cliched and devoid of logic, that I had to fast forward to the next scene.

This also refers back to my criticism of the directors. A good director knows how to motivate their actors, even when a scene is poorly written, or knows when to send the script back for a rewrite. Granted there must have been time and budget constraints, but the script should be polished before shooting begins and the writers need to be on hand to make revisions when it’s clear that something isn’t working.

7. The music truly sucks. The background music, the soppy ballads, and the opening and closing credit tunes all suck. Where’s BETTY when we need them?

Finally, what is it about Showtime, the HBO wannabe, that keeps their dramas from realizing their full potential. Unlike HBO («The Sopranos,» «The Wire»), AMC («Breaking Bad,» «Better Call Saul»), Amazon («Mrs. Maisel,» «Fleabag»), and FX («Fargo»), among others, Showtime’s series are always straining for the top shelf, but never quite reaching it. After watching episodes of «Dexter,» «Shameless,» and «Ray Donovan,» I came a way with a feeling that they’re drawing on a pool of B-list writers or that the showrunners (here, Marya-Lewis Ryan) keep underestimating the audience. GenQ feels like its been dumbed down for the lowest common denominator.

Is it a cultural thing at Showtime’s executive level? Granted, HBO has had it’s share of turkeys (Alan Ball’s awful «Here and Now» and the unwatchable «Hello Ladies»), but when they’re good, they’re very, very good.

Compared to the disappointing Season 1, Season 2 was on such a downward spiral that it was barely watchable. I kept hoping for redemption, but it never came. If there’s a Season 3, I won’t be there.

This is mostly bad acting and unbelievable plot. 90% of the good acting is from the actors from the first series the rest are painfully awkward.

The plot doesn’t make sense and isn’t realistic. Meet your landlord the first episode, the next day you’re hanging out all the time and they’re best friends w your roommates too.

Everyone on the show is constantly having sex like they just met, but are in long term monogamous relationships instead of a focus on deep connection, perpetuating stereotypes. It just feels fake and Focused on being weird to be trendy than something different like the first series.

While Roswell: New Mexico is one of the worst reboots (and worst TV shows I’ve ever seen), Gen Q is a close second, along with also being probably one of the worst shows I’ve seen, period. And I’ve seen a lot. Being a big fan of the original L Word, it pains me to see it go down in the fiery flames of a sinking ship. Basically, all I can hope for is they cancel it and maybe try it again with more competent hands than the newbie, Marja-Lewis Ryan, who has virtually almost no experience. Who in their right mind hires a women with ZERO TV experience to showrun a series? That doesn’t even happen for straight white males in the industry who get everything handed to them on a silver platter, so, I have to ask, how does a women with zero TV experience and only an ounce of indie film experience end up creating a show? Showtime really must be penniless if other than three of the original cast, they’re hiring virtual nobodies, as well as people with no experience. And, it REALLY shows. Painfully.

The writing, acting, directing, music, almost everything is straight up amateur and abysmal. The only bright spots are the original cast, who you only see for about 1/3 of the show, and some of the LA scenery. Other than that, there’s nothing here. I was told the show is not good, particularly the first episode, but that it gets better by the second. If you call going from terrible to bad, sure, I guess it gets better. And if not for the original cast I would not have made it past the first 10 minutes of the pilot episode. I’ve learned that if the first 5 minutes of a show or movies is bad, it almost never gets better from there, and this definitely delivered on that.

It was boring, cliche, the acting is terrible, the director jumps around to so many characters and storyline, everything gets lost in this muddy swirl of a bad student film. It’s pretty clear Marja-Lewis Ryan is trying very hard to be a Lena Dunham wannabe, and Gen Q to be the Girls, compared to the L Word’s — Sex in the City. On all counts she failed. While Girls is a more accessible show for those who don’t identify or relate to Carrie, Samantha, Charlotte, and Miranda, Girls is very cleverly written, acted, and done, and the show manages to be very likable despite the reality that none of those characters would probably be likable in real life.

And while even Girls has some element of fantasy, as we never truly believe Adam Driver would be with Lena’s character, and is the Jake Ryan to Lena’s Molly Ringwald, other than that, it’s a fairly realistic portrayal into millennial life. In Gen Q, amongst its many failures is believability. You get more the sense of this being a 12-yr-old girl’s ideal fantasy of how life should be rather than what is real. So, add immature and unrealistic to the list of flaws. And throw vapid and stereotypes in there, while you’re at it. Basically, it’s a hot mess. I just think women and the lesbian community deserve better. While L Word was groundbreaking and benefitted the community in many ways, along with Ellen, this is like taking a huge step back 15 years. I can only imagine those that came out, due to the L Word, are more likely to stay in the closet if they see this as their representation. So, thanks Marja for setting us back in time.

This show literally portrays lesbians as immoral, lust driven, shallow human beings who can’t control their desires and cheat all the time. None of them have a happy, functioning relationship. The story lines and dialogues are shallow. Does not feel like an episode but more like several TikTok stories put together. The woke agenda is also exhausting.

The original L World was funny and uplifting, showing that lesbians are just normal humans, looking for happiness and love, and who of course suffer as well. That’s just life.

This reboot is truly depressing to watch. Had to stop watching after a few episode.

Review after 2 epis:

The new showrunner, Maria Lewis Ryan has sorely missed the mark with Gen Q. If I were watching this show separate from the original, I wld just find it boring and underwhelming; I’d rather watch Lost Girl, Wynonna, Orphan Black, Sense8 which are way more interesting even Work in Progress which is fabulous and has found a way to portray new queer culture just via plotline.

The reboot is no longer oddly even a lesbian-centric show. It’s about random things happening to people that just happen to be gay but cld just as easily be hetero and I get that’s the truth in real life: gay people do all the same things straight people do — have jobs, friends, families, lovers, hobbies, passions, etc. But this is supposed to be entertainment and the whole point of bringing back the show was because they said that one gay character on a show isn’t enough and they were filling a void that no other show took up after the OG went off the air and they are yet to fill that void. But..there is a BIG difference between being straight and being gay; it’s why we have gay pride not straight pride. The gay spots and girl parties in NYC look nothing like what my straight friends do when they go out. The original showed that. So far Q hasn’t (where’s the fun too?). I get that the original L Word was like gay 101 and this isn’t the original but shouldn’t there be some connection to the original beyond Bette, Alice and Shane at least in tone. This new iteration barely talks abt gayness/being a lesbian and what that’s like.

Additionally…We have no idea why the newbies are even friends. We’ve heard very little about any of the missing original cast and they’re dragging out plot lines like why Bette is running for mayor and what has Shane so down (I won’t spoil it). There’s no lesbian meetup spot like the planet and I get all those places have closed in LA but create one (which I think Shane is going to do). But even Bette, Shane and Alice are disjointed in this new iteration. Alice is still fabulous but what is her s/l really? Her purpose? Finley is so F’in annoying and a poor excuse for a human being let alone a supposed Shane 2.0. She’s merely a caricature. She acts dumb and immature and is a moocher and awkward with women which is a real waste of Jacqueline Toboni’s acting prowess because normally I love her.

Overall, you know that when the best s/l on a supposedly lesbian show is about a trans gay man, Micah, then there’s a problem. Why even call it the L Word? Again, I get that it can’t be dyke 101 like the original but they could at least discuss the new wave of queerness facing the community.

I hope to be proven wrong and that the 6 epis remaining leave me loving the show but IDK if that’ll happen. It seems like they are trying to be overly diverse and so the diversity gets lost. It’s trying to be everything and portray everyone and a show just can’t be expected to do that.

The end of the original 2-hour pilot did two things. 1) Left me wanting more; and 2) was the catalyst for my coming out. So far 2 episodes into the reboot and it has done and wld not have done either of those things for me. We waited 10 years for The L Word to come back but not in this form. It’s a real shame.

If I had to tell someone what this series is and they already watched the original L WORD, I’d say it’s the equivalent to when Jenny was directing her movie and she was teaching straight women how to be gay. That’s honestly what this series feels like…

I had to look away from the screen at times to do something else because some of the parts of the episodes were either boring or cringey.

I so wish they would have casted people with a similar vibe to the OG L Word because the chemistry between these characters and their relationships are very bland, theres no connection whatsoever.

Also Alice’s new relationship, for some reason…I can’t see it…like why would Alice, who was a socialite vlogger / blogger settle down with a woman who has a bunch of kids? Wouldn’t she be in a high profile relationship??? Someone she could relate to?? I don’t see how a therapist and a talk show host would gel together…

Call it lazy writing and lack of research of the main show but this whole thing so far feels rushed and imbalanced from the start. Even how they are explaining what happened in the original series feels like a dissertation rather than actual acting.

If you’re gonna bring back something as iconic as The L Word, it should have really been handled with more care, from the writing to the casting. I really hope the show sees these reviews and take note of them because interest is whats gonna keep this show going and I’m very uninterested in this new L Word, if i can even call it that.

I was beyond thrilled when they announced a revival of the L Word. The show has become a rite of passage for all queer women — at least those growing up in the mid-naughties like I did.

I watched three episodes — and it left me feeling… uninspired to say the least.

The first episode starts off with a sex scene, a period sex scene at that. And it was going great, until it just kept going and I found myself wondering — why do I care about these characters and why am I still watching this?

The biggest flaw of all is that there’s not enough information provided with any of the characters to make them interesting, or a storyline for that matter. First of all, where did Shane get all of her money from? Where is Kit? Weren’t Bette and Tina supposed to be in New York?

It seems that all these writers (not the original one) want to do is shove the diversity card in the audience’s faces, trying to include trans, lantinx and families into the mix. While that’s not necessarily a bad thing, in fact I embrace it. But bottom line is I really don’t care all that much about these characters, because the writing is not up to par.

The first series had an interesting linear story: girl moves in with her boyfriend, befriends her lesbian neighbours and discovers her sexuality by having sex with an exotic café owner.

We find ourselves wanting to know what happens next. But with the storylines in this series, the lack of info and moreover — the fact that none of these characters behave like real people (at least not people I’ve ever met) I find them just annoying and uninteresting. And that’s a huge problem.

I was a fan of the original show. This new show was disappointing, to say the least. It just doesn’t work. Too much emphasis on the implausible running for mayor thing, some of the acting was terrible, and Finley is just annoying. And they are all rich, except for Finley. It just ring true to any of my life experience. And Bette was never one of my favorite characters, anyway.

Shane is, of course, still hot.

And why are all of them wearing too much makeup?

And where’s the fun? And why is Leisha Hailey so skinny? She was so cute!

In all, it was a disjointed, boring-in-spots effort.

This ended as though a second season is coming, but I doubt I’ll watch it, unless I’m desperate.

The L Word changed my life. I was a very confused 14 year Colombian girl living in a very small city with my very Catholic family. I was not old enough to watch the show but fk it, I finally understood why I felt out of place and I didn’t «get it» when my friends talked about some «boy being super hot». I realized that I was, and I am, lesbian. I know the show ended up being crap. But we can’t let the bad things overshadow what this show meant, and still means, to people like me.

My girlfriend and I were afraid of watching this new generation, we were afraid of watching a disaster even worse that what ended up to be the original show. We were afraid that «The L Word», the lesbian word, would fall in the background. I am not against the Q generation, but I do feel that we lesbians all around the world are losing great spaces like for example: all women, lesbian bars. I love that today, people are not afraid of putting on, or not to putting on, a label. But we need The L Word right now more than ever. You can see for yourself. Search how many lesbian bars have disappeared all around the globe in the last 10 years, it’s sad. There are just a couple left.

I just watched the first 2 episodes and I feel so happy. I am feeling like a teenager, watching the show on mute with the captions on, every Sunday at 11pm on school’s nights. Feeling scared and happy at the same time. Waiting the whole week just for that one hour of television where I could watch women like me. We did exist! I was not the only one!

I think the choices they made with the old characters are great. I think this new show is very smart and it keeps the essence of the first seasons of the original one. I am very happy with this transition.

I really want this show to succeed. I want to know more about the old characters, I want cameos. But also, I want to know more about the new characters. I am very excited and enjoyed the hell out of these episodes.

Yeah, the show is silly sometimes but it doesn’t take itself too seriously and shouldn’t we. This show was and still is groundbreaking, it’s tone varies but the message is very clear.

I am very glad Jennifer, Leisha and Kate did this. And I am so happy that they are the producers and have a lot of creative power. They can’t let Ilene Chaiken ruin this again.

Watch it. I was not going to to do it because of the reviews and that is so stupid. Just give it an opportunity.

I love this cast, they have great chemistry.

This show is not about fixing the mistakes made in the past. They can’t resurrect Dana and, they actually did a great job with the Jenny situation….one line was more than enough to end that mess.

I hope to get a lot of more seasons. Why the LGBTQ+ community hates the LGBTQ+ community so much?

Like for real. I don’t get why anyone can be pissed at this show. Just don’t watch it if you don’t like it but you can’t say it’s not a great deal for our community and for us, lesbians.

Lesbian, from Lesbos. The origin of the L word is beautiful. Read about Sappho, read her poems. We should be proud of it and we should celebrate it.

We need more shows like this. Visibility is our best allied, don’t forget that.

I watched the original series and I did enjoy it, but I always felt it was a little bit overrated. I do feel Gen Q is generally more surface level than the original. The plots are predictable and the show in general is a little underwhelming. I hate to say this, but I find the actress that plays Finley to be borderline unwatchable. Her acting has the subtlety of a hammer. That being said, I think most the acting in the series is heavy handed, so fault could lie with the director.

Overall it’s watchable, although sometimes it doesn’t really hold my attention. But it’s fine if you’ve run out of stuff to watch.