Is absent minded one word or two

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  • #1

Hello,

I’ve always thought that the word absent-minded needs a hyphen. Unfortunately, I came across the word in question written as one word, namely absentminded. I found the latter in the book «The Godfather’s Revenge«. Which form, in your opinion, is more common?

Thank you.

    • #2

    «absent-minded». I would even go so far as to say that «absentminded» is incorrect although it may be one of those words that has just been melded together because the concept is so common.

    • #3

    absent-minded is more common in my opinion, and absentminded is its alternative spelling.

    bibliolept


    Loob


    • #5

    These things often change over time, Audio: two separate words > hyphenated word > single word with no hyphen.

    I’m pretty sure I still write absent-minded. But I don’t think I’d notice if I read absentminded.

    EDIT: Bibbles’ post has made me ponder on what I write for the adverb and the noun. I think I’d probably opt for the unhyphenated version in both cases: absentmindedly, absentmindedness.
    Go figure, as our American cousins say….

    Last edited: Jul 17, 2009

    audiolaik


    • #6

    «absent-minded». I would even go so far as to say that «absentminded» is incorrect although it may be one of those words that has just been melded together because the concept is so common.

    absentminded Aadjective1 absent, absentminded, abstracted, scatty
    lost in thought; showing preoccupation; «an absent stare»; «an absentminded professer»; «the scatty glancing quality of a hyperactive but unfocused intelligence»

    source

    • #7

    I just had this discussion yesterday about «home-style». I would always hyphenate it but many would use «homestyle». I still contend that the word-meld (wordmeld?) isn’t technically correct (in my humble opinion) but I’ve already conceded that it’s not surprising. I wouldn’t do it because, to me, it’s not logical.

    cuchuflete


    • #8

    I just had this discussion yesterday about «home-style». I would always hyphenate it but many would use «homestyle». I still contend that the word-meld (wordmeld?) isn’t technically correct (in my humble opinion) but I’ve already conceded that it’s not surprising. I wouldn’t do it because, to me, it’s not logical.

    As has been pointed out earlier, there is a progression, probably based on frequency of use and time, from two words to a hyphenated construction, and finally to a single compound word. I don’t have any particular opinion, humble or otherwise, about what measure one should use to determine what is «technically correct». Do we have a source, say some nice 1850s prescriptivist grammarian, or a more recent edition of Fowler or Garner, to explain why things fall to one side or the other of «technically correct»?

    • #9

    American English often drops the hyphen that is more common in British English. It may be something more recent than just American English though as in «week-end» and «weekend».

    • #10

    Do we have a source, say some nice 1850s prescriptivist grammarian, or a more recent edition of Fowler or Garner, to explain why things fall to one side or the other of «technically correct»?

    Of course not — just my «becoming ever so much humbler» opinion. Thanks for the spanking — I needed that.

    entangledbank


    • #11

    Can I just remind you of what the Oxford style guide used to state: If you worry too much about hyphens, you will surely go mad.

    panjandrum


    • #12

    The OED headword is absent-minded.
    Similarly, it lists absent-mindedly and absent-mindedness.

    absent-minded: 1824, 1859, 1906, 1940, 2002
    absentminded: 1884, 1977
    absent minded: 1928

    absent-mindedly 1857, 1915, 1942
    absentmindedly 1996

    absent-mindedness 1845, 1869, 1938, 1994

    This doesn’t prove anything, but it is mildly interesting :)

    cuchuflete


    • #13

    Domcl said:

    Of course not — just my «becoming ever so much humbler» opinion. Thanks for the spanking — I needed that.

    Not a spanking, Dimcl, but a reminder to myself that sometimes non-native and native learners alike may take our words very seriously, as if we always had a righteous leg to stand on. I share your preference for the hyphenated version. My old habits are often slower to change than the speaking and writing patterns of the rest of the AEniverse.

    Now I’m scratching my head, wondering if dog house and fireplug are one word or two word constructions. A quick dictionary check tells me that dog house and doghouse are both kicking around, while fireplug is only present as a single word. Compare that with fire hydrant, which is more frequently a two word noun, but does seem to have a one word life as well.

    It is humbling to be unable to explain the logic, if any, that governs all of this.

    _____________________
    I am not so lost in lexicography as to forget that words are the daughters of earth, and that things are the sons of heaven. —Samuel Johnson, Preface to his Dictionary.

    ewie


    • #14

    I was just about to explain at length that I favour hyphens in all forms of the term just because I find the consonantcluster ntm a bit gruesome, but then I remembered I have an appointment elsewhere.

    bibliolept


    • #15

    I was just about to explain at length that I favour hyphens in all forms of the term just because I find the consonantcluster ntm a bit gruesome, but then I remembered I have an appointment elsewhere.

    I just hope that the original poster has achieved some degree of contentment in regard to this matter.

    cuchuflete


    • #16

    I just hope that the original poster has achieved some degree of contentment in regard to this matter.

    Now that ewie has gone off to his appointment, we don’t run the risk of creating a resentment on his part. I ask myself what a hyphen does to change the pronunciation of a pair of words or a compound word. I don’t find a persuasive answer.

    Cagey

    post mod (English Only / Latin)


    • #17

    It seems to me that the hyphen hasn’t much to do with the actual pronunciation of the word, but is sometimes an aid to comprehension when the word is read. As opposed to a the closed form, a word that is broken into its constituent parts is sometimes easier to recognize : absent-minded may be more quickly grasped than absentminded.

    As opposed to unhyphenated words, the link provided by the hyphen may be helpful for grasping two words as a unit: an absent-minded child is not for the flicker of a moment thought to be an absent child, who is minded.

    I propose these as explanations of the use that we make of hyphens when they are there, and why we might prefer them, not as an explanation of why some words are hyphenated and others not.


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    absent-minded

    ABSENT-MINDED, ABSTRACTED

    Absent-minded и abstracted ‘рассеянный, невнимательный’ не совпадают по значению. Absent-minded употребляется, когда речь идет о черте характера, и имеет в виду постоянное, непроизвольное отсутствие внимания к окружающему: absent-minded professor, to be absent-minded. Abstracted относится только к состоянию человека в какой-то определенный момент (может быть произвольным и непроизвольным): abstracted look, to gaze in an abstracted way. (Ср. русск. рассеянный человек и отсутствующий взгляд.)

    Difficulties of the English language (lexical reference) English-Russian dictionary.
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    Смотреть что такое «absent-minded» в других словарях:

    • absent-minded — absent mindedly, adv. absent mindedness, n. /ab seuhnt muyn did/, adj. so lost in thought that one does not realize what one is doing, what is happening, etc.; preoccupied to the extent of being unaware of one s immediate surroundings. Also,… …   Universalium

    • absent-minded — or absentminded [ab′sənt mīn′did, ab′səntmīn΄did] adj. 1. so dreamy or lost in thought as not to pay attention to what one is doing or what is going on around one 2. habitually forgetful absent mindedly adv. absent mindedness n. SYN. ABSENT… …   English World dictionary

    • absent-minded — adj likely to forget things, especially because you are thinking about something else = ↑forgetful ▪ Grandad s been getting rather absent minded lately. >absent mindedly adv >absent mindedness n [U] …   Dictionary of contemporary English

    • absent-minded — adjective likely to forget things or to think about something different from what you should be thinking about: FORGETFUL: I m getting more absent minded as I get older. ╾ ,absent mindedly adverb ╾ ,absent mindedness noun uncount …   Usage of the words and phrases in modern English

    • absent-minded — ► ADJECTIVE ▪ inattentive or forgetful. DERIVATIVES absent mindedly adverb absent mindedness noun …   English terms dictionary

    • Absent-minded — Ab sent mind ed, a. Absent in mind; abstracted; preoccupied. {Ab sent mind ed*ness}, n. {Ab sent mind ed*ly}, adv. [1913 Webster] …   The Collaborative International Dictionary of English

    • absent-minded — [adj] unaware of events, surroundings absent, absorbed, abstracted, airheaded*, bemused, daydreaming, distracted, distrait, dreaming, dreamy, engrossed, faraway, forgetful, goofing off*, heedless, inattentive, inconscient, lost, mooning*, moony* …   New thesaurus

    • absent-minded — index perfunctory, thoughtless Burton s Legal Thesaurus. William C. Burton. 2006 …   Law dictionary

    • absent-minded — adj. habitually forgetful or inattentive; with one s mind on other things. Derivatives: absent mindedly adv. absent mindedness n. * * * absent mindedly, adv. absent mindedness, n. /ab seuhnt muyn did/, adj. so lost in thought that one does not… …   Useful english dictionary

    • absent-minded — also absentminded ADJ GRADED Someone who is absent minded forgets things or does not pay attention to what they are doing, often because they are thinking about something else. In his later life he became even more absent minded. Syn: forgetful… …   English dictionary

    • absent-minded — I (Roget s IV) modif. Syn. abstracted, preoccupied, lost in thought, forgetful, distracted, dreamy, inattentive, lost, unmindful, absent, unheeding, heedless, oblivious, distrait, daydreaming, napping, unconscious, unaware, inadvertent, withdrawn …   English dictionary for students

    English[edit]

    Alternative forms[edit]

    • absentminded

    Etymology[edit]

    absent +‎ minded

    Pronunciation[edit]

    • (US) IPA(key): /ˌæb.sn̩tˈmaɪn.dɪd/

    Adjective[edit]

    absent-minded (comparative more absent-minded, superlative most absent-minded) (possessional)

    1. Absent in mind; often preoccupied; forgetful or careless due to distraction; easily distracted. [First attested in the mid 19th century.][1]
      It took the absent-minded man twenty minutes to find his glasses on top of his head.

    Derived terms[edit]

    • absent-mindedness
    • absent-mindedly
    • absent-minded professor

    Translations[edit]

    absent in mind

    • Acehnese: tahe
    • Belarusian: рассе́яны (rassjéjany)
    • Bulgarian: (please verify) разсеян (bg) (razsejan), (please verify) потънал в мисли (potǎnal v misli)
    • Catalan: distret (ca)
    • Chinese:
      Cantonese: 鬆散松散 (sung1 saan2)
      Mandarin: 心不在焉 (zh) (xīnbùzàiyān), 鬆散松散 (zh) (sōngsǎn)
    • Czech: roztržitý (cs)
    • Danish: åndsfraværende, distræt
    • Dutch: verstrooid (nl), afwezig (nl), elders met zijn gedachten, er niet bij
    • Finnish: hajamielinen (fi) (forgetful), poissaoleva (fi) (absent in mind)
    • French: distrait (fr)
    • Galician: distraído, pampo (gl), apirolado (vulgar)
    • German: zerstreut (de), geistesabwesend (de)
    • Hebrew: מפוזר‎ m (mefuzár)
    • Hungarian: szórakozott (hu)
    • Irish: dearmadach
    • Italian: svanito (it)
    • Japanese: ぼんやり (ja) (bon’yari), 上の空の (ja) (うわのそらの, uwa-no sora-no)
    • Macedonian: расеан (rasean)
    • Maori: hinengaro makere, wareware, pakihaha
    • Norwegian:
      Bokmål: distré (no), åndsfraværende
      Nynorsk: distré, åndsfråverande
    • Polish: roztargniony (pl)
    • Portuguese: distraído (pt), desatento (pt)
    • Romanian: absent (ro), distrat (ro)
    • Russian: рассе́янный (ru) (rasséjannyj)
    • Serbo-Croatian: rasejan, расејан, rasijan (sh)
    • Spanish: distraído (es), despistado (es), desatento (es)
    • Swedish: tankspridd (sv)
    • Tagalog: tagulimot
    • Turkish: unutkan (tr) (forgetful), dalgın (tr) (absent in mind)

    References[edit]

    1. ^ Lesley Brown, editor-in-chief; William R. Trumble and Angus Stevenson, editors (2002), “absent-minded”, in The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary on Historical Principles, 5th edition, Oxford; New York, N.Y.: Oxford University Press, →ISBN, page 9.

    1

    a

    : lost in thought and unaware of one’s surroundings or actions : preoccupied

    was too absent-minded to notice what time it was

    b

    : tending to forget or fail to notice things : given to absence of mind (see absence sense 3)

    an absent-minded person prone to forgetting appointments

    2

    : indicative of or resulting from preoccupation or absence of mind

    gave an absent-minded reply

    absentmindedly
    adverb

    or less commonly absent-mindedly

    absentmindedness
    noun

    or less commonly absent-mindedness

    Synonyms

    Choose the Right Synonym for absent-minded



    walking about with an abstracted air

    preoccupied often implies having one’s attention so taken up by thoughts as to neglect others.



    too preoccupied with her debts to enjoy the meal

    absent stresses inability to fix the mind on present concerns due more to mental wandering than to concentration on other matters.

    absent-minded implies that the mind is fixed elsewhere and often refers to a habit of abstractedness.



    so absent-minded, he’s been known to wear mismatched shoes

    distracted may suggest an inability to concentrate caused by worry, sorrow, or anxiety.



    was too distracted by grief to continue working

    Example Sentences



    Her absentminded husband forgot their anniversary.



    She did the chores in an absentminded way.

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    Word History

    First Known Use

    1809, in the meaning defined at sense 1a

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    in 1809

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    What does 1. I’m absent-minded
    2. I’m an absent-minded professor
    3. I’m suffering from an absent-minded professor syndrome

    What’s the difference?

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    • English (US)

    It means that the professor forgets things easily or that the professor’s mind wanders. Like the professor will be in the middle of a lecture and lose their concentration or train of thought, or they might forget an appointment or assignment.

    «I’m not worried about completing the project by tomorrow. That professor is so absent-minded, he probably won’t remember to collect them until next week!»




    • Korean

    @sunnyann If I say like No.2 which means I’m a forgetful professor, right?
    and you mean, No.3 doesn’t make sense??




    • English (US)

    No. 2 means you are a forgetful professor, yes.

    By No. 3 do you mean my example: «I’m not worried about completing the project by tomorrow. That professor is so absent-minded, he probably won’t remember to collect them until next week!»

    That usage is correct. It means the professor is so forgetful, he will forget the homework he assigned.




    • Korean

    @sunnyann I actually heard that ‘absent-minded professor syndrome’ is one word. That’s why I asked lol
    If I say like «I’m suffering from an absent-minded syndrome.», this is totally different from No.3, am I correct??




    • English (US)

    I have never heard a native speaker say «an absent-minded syndrome».

    I’ve done a little research now, and I see that it is sometimes used to describe a personality type. It is not common enough that everyday people will have heard it and not think it sounds stilted or unnatural, but it doesn’t change the meaning. I hope that makes sense. :)




    • Korean

    @sunnyann Thanks for your kindness and good explanations :-) 👍👍👍

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    рассеянный

    прилагательное

    - рассеянный

    Мои примеры

    Словосочетания

    Примеры с переводом

    You are uncommonly absent-minded today.

    Вы сегодня необычайно рассеянны.

    She did the chores in an absentminded way.

    Она делала повседневные дела невнимательно.

    Grandad’s been getting rather absent-minded lately.

    В последнее время дед стал довольно рассеянным.

    Her absentminded husband forgot their anniversary.

    Её рассеянный муж забыл про их годовщину.

    Scientists are often caricatured as absent-minded professors.

    Учёных часто карикатурно изображают рассеянными профессорами.

    Возможные однокоренные слова

    Английское слово absent встречается в речи не так часто, поэтому студенты не уделяют ему много внимания. И все же, все со школьных времен помнят «Tanya is absent today». Как еще это слово может пригодиться вам? Об этом мы поговорим в статье сегодня.

    Содержание:
    I. Absent в качестве прилагательного
    II. Absent в качестве предлога
    III. Устойчивые выражения с absent

    Absent в качестве прилагательного

    Первый раз с прилагательным absent [ˈæbsənt] мы встречаемся как раз в школе, когда учитель спрашивает: «Who is absent today?» В этом случае absent переводится как «отсутствующий» и используется, когда что-то или кто-то находится не там, где должен быть. Особенно это касается учебных занятий или работы.

    Mary has been absent from school for five days now.
    Мэри вот уже как 5 дней отсутствует в школе.

    Absent может также употребляться в значении «постоянно отсутствующий где-то, нехарактерный для». Например:

    This species of ant is absent from Africa.
    Этот вид муравьев отсутствует в Африке.

    Обратите внимание, что после прилагательного absent ставится предлог from, а затем указывается место, о котором мы говорим.

    Баннер Методика запоминания слов

    Назад к содержанию

    Absent в качестве предлога

    Предлог absent переводится как «без», «в отсутствие» чего-либо.

    Absent a detailed plan, the conference was doomed from the start.
    Без продуманного плана конференция была обречена с самого начала.

    Назад к содержанию

    Устойчивые выражения с absent

    Absent также входит в состав устойчивых английских выражений путем слияния с другими английскими словами. Посмотрим на примерах:

    absent-mindedness – рассеянность (существительное)
    absent-mindedly – рассеянно (наречие)
    absent-minded – рассеянный (прилагательное)

    In a moment of absent-mindedness, she threw her wallet in the bin.
    В момент рассеянности она выбросила кошелек в мусорное ведро.

    She absent-mindedly left her keys on the bus.
    Она рассеянно оставила ключи в автобусе.

    She is absent-minded.
    Она рассеянная.

    Фото Полины Червовой

    Полина Червова, основатель школы WillSpeak

    А ещё со словом absent есть пословица, которая имеет эквивалент в русском языке:

    Long absent, soon forgotten.
    С глаз долой, из сердца вон.

    Назад к содержанию

    Многие слова в английском языке сложны тем, что имеют несколько значений, не всегда очевидных и понятных на первый взгляд. На моем комплексном курсе английского Will Speak я объясняю каждое слово простым и понятным языком, чтобы вы могли их быстрее усвоить и уже начать строить предложения. Записаться можно прямо сейчас!

    Ваша Полина Червова,
    основатель школы WillSpeak

    Пробный урок курса Will Speak

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