In all manners of the word

1. 10-05-2014, 04:02 PM

   
   

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   New… in all manners of the word!
   

   I’ve long admired birds and wanted to keep one as a pet. Moved around quite alot so never seemed like the right time but will be buying a place soon so plan on that being my last move, for a year at least (joke!)

   Ive just signed up here to gain further knowledge, find out which bird is right for me (and if im right for the bird more importantly!) and basically get some of my newbie questions answered haha.
   Speaking of, is there a ‘newbie’ section for such questions or do I go directly to the general discussion?

   Thanks for having me.

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2. 10-05-2014, 04:37 PM

   
   

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   Welcome to Precisely Parrots, Barney! Thanks so much for joining us .

   You can certainly post any questions in the General Bird Discussion section. You can also post under the species-specific categories if you like. The advanced search option is as well available. Just enter your search terms there.

   Parrots can be wonderful companions and family members. But they’re also a huge and permanent responsibility. It’s a great thing and very wise that you’re doing your research beforehand

   Please pose any questions you may have and please keep us updated as to your decisions.

   

   «Please adopt older birds!»

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3. 10-05-2014, 05:21 PM

   
   

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   Originally Posted by PlaxMacaws
   

   Welcome to Precisely Parrots, Barney! Thanks so much for joining us .

   You can certainly post any questions in the General Bird Discussion section. You can also post under the species-specific categories if you like. The advanced search option is as well available. Just enter your search terms there.

   Parrots can be wonderful companions and family members. But they’re also a huge and permanent responsibility. It’s a great thing and very wise that you’re doing your research beforehand

   Please pose any questions you may have and please keep us updated as to your decisions.

   Thanks Plax, ill make use of the search facilities. I did see that there were sub forums for specific birds but not quite sure which ‘type’ im after yet so wondered the best way to go about it. Dont think im quite ready to care for a macaw yet but really like the one in your signature and profile pic!

   At the moment im looking at Quakers and Conures, but as I look at them other species pop up and I then go into a world of looking at 20 more birds haha.

   Apart from my 9-5 job, I spend plenty of time in the evenings and weekends at home. I currently have a cat, dog and bearded dragon…the latter of which is more of a hobby than a pet given the amount of research and detail required to give them a good life, so I feel in a good position to care for a bird too.

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4. 10-05-2014, 05:41 PM

   
   

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   Originally Posted by Barney
   

   Thanks Plax, ill make use of the search facilities. I did see that there were sub forums for specific birds but not quite sure which ‘type’ im after yet so wondered the best way to go about it. Dont think im quite ready to care for a macaw yet but really like the one in your signature and profile pic!

   At the moment im looking at Quakers and Conures, but as I look at them other species pop up and I then go into a world of looking at 20 more birds haha.

   Apart from my 9-5 job, I spend plenty of time in the evenings and weekends at home. I currently have a cat, dog and bearded dragon…the latter of which is more of a hobby than a pet given the amount of research and detail required to give them a good life, so I feel in a good position to care for a bird too.

   Sounds great, Barney. I’d say research/compare/learn… then research/compare/learn some more… in addition to visiting some actual birds that you can spend some time getting to know. Following a plan like that should be a good approach for you

   

   «Please adopt older birds!»

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5. 10-05-2014, 06:23 PM

   
   

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   Originally Posted by PlaxMacaws
   

   Sounds great, Barney. I’d say research/compare/learn… then research/compare/learn some more… in addition to visiting some actual birds that you can spend some time getting to know. Following a plan like that should be a good approach for you

   Thanks again, I live in a fairly remote area of the world (Highlands of Scotland) so not exactly an abundance of places I can go to interact with birds. The only petshop (which is also a gardening shop lol) near me has 1 bird. I have never seen it…but have heard it haha.

   Is there any type of bird that you suggest would be a good starting point? As an adult rather than a child (not really interested in budgies and the smaller type, if that matters!).

   Ill may be just riff off a few ‘preferences’ if thats ok so that I can possibly narrow down my options, rather than dive straight in with making numerous threads in the general section.

   Bird(s) : The reason for the (s) is that I would like the bird to have a companion if it will help them thrive. Owning a bearded dragon I know that some animals in the world are best on their own, I just added the plural as an option if it was to the benefit of the bird rather than me.

   Cage size : I can accommodate a cage size of anything from 1ft long x 1ft deep by 2ft high, all the way up to 4ft long by 2.5ft deep by 5ft high.

   Time : As I said previously, I have a 9-5 job so the bird(s) would have to have the ability to entertain themselves for a good chunk of the day. If lights are out at 9pm for them usually, I would most likely be able to interact with them for about 4 hours a day, including cleaning cage time, feedings, etc.
   On weekends, I will be able to interact with them for as long as they need for the most part I am home quite alot.

   Interacting with others : I will be the only one around the bird 99% of the time, but would like for friends and family to be able to hold/interact also. This is desirable, not essential.

   Budget : Id say not more than �800 for the bird, cage, toys and food. Of course I know that more toys, more food, supplements and vets bills are inevitable, Im just putting the �800 as initial setup although there is scope to expand this should I become obsessed with a particular bird.

   Noise/Talking : Medium to low level noise. Talking would be nice but again its a desirable and not essential.

   Bird Size : Doesnt really matter, the only reason I added this is the size of the bird would have to fit into the cage size I can provide in order to be happy with its surroundings. Id prefer something a bit more substantial than a budgie though.

   I have probably missed some things out but I am aware that they are living things and nothing is guaranteed with regards to noise, aggression and whatnot as no two birds are the same. This is just my little wishlist to get me started so if you have any suggestions on what I focus my research on i’d really appreciate it.

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6. 10-05-2014, 06:33 PM

   
   

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   Welcome Barney. Are you familiar with the TV and book series Outlander? Takes place in Scotland. Have you read any of the 8 books? May I suggest you research the bird Cockatiel. They are easily trained, not very noisy and love to cuddle. The females seem to be high on the egg laying scale so a male may be preferred. Also check to see if you have any avian vets or vets that will treat birds close to you. This is important. http://beautyofbirds.com/cockatielsaspets.html

   I would also like to mention it is important to have a safe environment for a bird. With other pets in the home some precautions should be taken. http://kathys-corner.com/
   The second article in the link may help you.

   There is another not so well know bird that is truly lovely. It is called a Meyers Parrot. http://lafeber.com/pet-birds/species/meyers-parrot/

   Last edited by spiritbird; 10-05-2014 at 06:36 PM.

   

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8. 10-05-2014, 07:02 PM

   
   

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   Originally Posted by spiritbird
   

   Welcome Barney. Are you familiar with the TV and book series Outlander? Takes place in Scotland. Have you read any of the 8 books? May I suggest you research the bird Cockatiel. They are easily trained, not very noisy and love to cuddle. The females seem to be high on the egg laying scale so a male may be preferred. Also check to see if you have any avian vets or vets that will treat birds close to you. This is important. http://beautyofbirds.com/cockatielsaspets.html

   I would also like to mention it is important to have a safe environment for a bird. With other pets in the home some precautions should be taken. http://kathys-corner.com/
   The second article in the link may help you.

   There is another not so well know bird that is truly lovely. It is called a Meyers Parrot. http://lafeber.com/pet-birds/species/meyers-parrot/

   Thanks for the reply, and links, spiritbird. I have not seen that show but will keep my eye out for it.
   I have of course heard of a cockatiel and I will take them into consideration in getting a bird. The Meyers parrot is not something I have ever come acress, does look very appealing on looks and traits from the link you provided, thanks!

   Last edited by Barney; 10-05-2014 at 07:13 PM.

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10. 10-05-2014, 07:13 PM

    
    

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    Oh and I forgot to mention.
    The bird will be in my room, which also has the bearded dragon on it. The wont be facing eachother as each enclosure will be against the same wall. The dog doesn’t really care about new animals in the house. Cat is inquisitive but after a while isnt bothered about new animals either, and he’s never in my room anyway, so wont be in there unsupervised at any point.

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11. 10-05-2014, 08:05 PM

    
    

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    Barney: Concerning your multiple pet situation… a significant risk exists even when a predatory pet has shown little to no interest in an avian housemate for a long period of time — years in some cases. That’s because birds tend to startle on occasion and thus may leap into the air instinctively. All it may take to incite a fatal response is for a pet bird to launch in this manner out of fright and thus abruptly end up in a pet cat or dog’s physical space. In such a situation a cat will typically lash out with claws and teeth, and a dog may well snap at the small animal suddenly appearing before it. This type of event can easily end a bird’s life. While it’s possible to mitigate the likelihood associated with a pet bird’s inclination to engage in panic flights, we can never eliminate the reality that every bird will occasionally become startled and launch into aimless flight. And importantly, even when a pet owner is sitting or standing right beside their cat or their dog while a pet bird is near, an unexpected and sudden act of aggression on the part of said cat or dog will usually occur so quickly that there’s no time for intervention to save the bird. It’s definitely a matter worthy of concern.

    Moving on… Personally, I have always liked Meyers Parrots quite well. They are often reported to have wonderful personalities. Additionally, if you acquire more than one parrot, and especially if they are housed together, they may become bonded to one another and therefore less affectionate toward you. If that’s preferred, then maybe multiple birds is an answer for you. It’s vary hard on a single bird to remain home alone during work hours each day. It can be done, but it’s not ideal. And lastly, once you decide upon a species it will be time to determine what the minimum dimensions of your cage should be.

    

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13. 10-05-2014, 08:14 PM

    
    

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    I will take the cat/dog situation into consideration when deciding on what, where, and even IF a bird will be suitable in my current environment. I certainly hope I can.

    In your experience, would you advise ‘introducing’ the bird to the cat and dog, or give them as much distance as possible? That’s probably a difficult question to answer as all animals react differently, just looking for a general consensus on the correct thing to do.

    Meyers look great, as do cockatiels…and quakers, and conures… its getting to the point where im going to have to pick a name out of a hat to decide! haha

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Whenever you see all in a sentence, there is the tendency to think that the verb that will follow it should be plural. The reason is that all readily suggests many, far more than one. So, we know that instead of saying All the boys is here, we say All the boys are here.  Most of us also know that All of them visit us regularly is the correct expression – not All of them visits us regularly.

But because language is not the same thing as Mathematics, there are contexts in which all rejects plural verbs. This usually applies when it works with mass or uncountable nouns. So, instead of All the salt have been washed away by rain, we have All the salt has been washed away by rain.  We also have Not all that glitters is gold, and not Not all that glitter are gold.

This leads us to the question asked in the topic of this lesson: All manners of or All manner of? Understandably, a lot of people say All manners of, when they mean different types of something or people.  To them, manner should carry an s in the statement because several or more manifestations are implied. This, is however, wrong. The right expression is All manner of:

Instead of saying ‘Sorry’, he came up with all manners of excuses. (Wrong)

Instead of saying ‘Sorry’, he came up with all manner of excuses. (Correct)

All manners of ideas were canvassed at the summit. (Wrong)

All manner of ideas were canvassed at the summit. (Correct)

On the other hand, the context manners is used may surprise some of us, as they would prefer the word without the s there.  This is when we are talking in terms of behavioural code, etiquette or things considered polite. The  correct word here is manners, not manner:

The footballer has bad manner; I am not surprised the referee gave him a red card. (Wrong)

The footballer has bad manners; I am not surprised the referee gave him a red card. (Correct)

The way he spoke to the old man showed that he has no manner. (Wrong)

The way he spoke to the old man shows that he has no manners. (Correct)

The marketing manager cannot accommodate the woman’s manner. (Wrong)

The marketing manager cannot accommodate the woman’s manners.

The fact that we cannot separate s from manner in the above brings to memory other words that many treat as singular elements but which must always carry s. They include whereabouts, crossroads, outskirts and loggerheads:

The police say they don’t know the whereabout of the criminal. (Wrong)

The police say the don’t know the whereabouts of the criminal.

Towards every election, Nigeria is usually at the crossroad. (Wrong)

Towards every election, Nigeria is usually at the crossroads. (Correct)

Chief Kiigbe lives on the outskirt  of the town. (Wrong)

Chief Kiigbe lives on the outskirts of the town. (Correct)

On mannerism

 Linked to manner and manners is mannerism, which refers to the habitual way or gesture of speaking or behaving.  It entails what a person says or does repeatedly whenever speaking, but which they may not realise they do. Note that mannerism is different from a slogan or pay-off line. The latter is often for emphasis and advertorial purposes but mannerism is usually a minus for a person.

Virtually everyone has their own mannerism, though it is only people engaged in public speaking that are exposed and are easily nailed for it. These include political leaders, clerics and teachers. Indeed, students are fond of playing up their teachers’ mannerisms to mock them:

Prof. Dende’s mannerism includes saying ‘By the way’.

My brother always repeatedly readjusts his glasses whenever he is addressing a gathering.

Answers to last week’s assignment

1. The manager had not submitted the list as of the time, …

     (a) still yet (b) even (c) THOUGH (d) although

1. You can’t enter. The store is out of BOUNDS to visitors.

     (a) bounds (b) bound (c) bondage (d) boundary

1. The boy as well as the little girls WANTS to recite a poem.

     (a) is wanting (b) are wanting (c) want (d) wants

Those who got all the answers right

A.T Perepou, Olutomilola O.O, Ifeayinchukwu Ibekwe, Rasheedat Zakariyau, Oladipupo Muhammed, Omirin Ayomipo, Oladimeji Sunday, Blessing Aghojare, Bukola Gaji, Halimat Awonuga, Akin Gandonu, Gani Oladipo, Tope Erijiyan, Charles Ekereke, Abdwakil Ashafa, Adegoke Tiwalola, Peter Inyang, Mikairu G.Y, Yakubu Suleman, Fasooto Ademola, Foluke Ogunsanya, Bolarinwa Nurudeen, Asan Kafilat, Oladipo Isaac Wole Ogunsade, A. B. Adejumo, Gift Uturu, Olugbenga Adu, Tunde Egbedokun, Olawale Ayodeji, Idongesit Ekpamfon, Ihekwoaba Ndidi, Rotimi Adeleye, Kolapo Barakat, Bernad Danldi, Ajayi Christopher,  Patrick Olus,  Adegbite Wasiu, Akinola Ilesanmi, Ofonime Etim, Abraham Akpoesienwa, Abosede Da-Silva, Olayinka Akomolede, Josiah Abu, Alonge Seun, Alonge Moses and Akbar Bello.

Those who also did well

Awonowo Adekunle, Afolabi Olalekan, Adeosun Taiwo, Arigbabu Olawale, Emmanuel Odiete, Adetokunboh Alonge, Ibrahim Abd’majid, Olahore Folahan, Ibukun Emmanuel, Olawale Lawal, Akinola Arowojolu, Ishola Oluwatoyin, Akande Akeem, Folashade Israel, Abraham Okwe, Kunbi Aina, Ephraim Odeiga, Bayo Adekoya, SFasai Sunmonu, S. Ajayi, Fasasi Kehinde, Nnamdi Chiegbo, Shola, M, David Osita, Effiong ArAdebayo Abdumajeed,  Ndeyarka Mercy, chibong, M. S. Adelugba, Sulaiman Baleeqs, Roland Olisa, Gabriel Okioghenete, Tony Unogu, Adewunmi Maria, Hunye Abel, Oludare Olufade, Tope Ajayi, Chukwudi Iheanacho, Ustadh Faisol, Goodluck Henry, Rotimi Jaiyeoba, Yekeen Mutiu, Emmanuel Oni, Nseobong Brown, Ven Falodun, Anyaka Augusta, Ayanlola Oluseyi, Steve O.A, Egberongbe Niyi, Seyi Adewuyi, Abiodun Elesin, Olaoye Folashade, Kolawole Kareem, Olatunde Adeleke, Godwin Akpoghome, Hussainat Dawuda, Muoka Johnny, Nath Garnvwa, Adeleke Taiwo, Daramola Oloniruha, Louis Obodiwe, Adediran Abass, Judepaul Chibueze, Muogho Kingsley, Chima Nkemakolam, Akomolafe Damilola, Adelowo Adetunji, Abiodun Oyeyemi, Sunday Oyesiji, Olayinka Adesina, Toyin Oyewoga, Ogunlade Kayode, Akinyemi Taiwo, Moshood Afolabi, Famuyide Funke, Aransiola Oluwole, Oyedare Segun, Olorunmateda Adenaike, Dickson Ogala, Aremu Afolabi, Raheem Jimoh, Saleh B.G, Babatunde Akinwale, Peter Anaman, Olunye Olayinka, Chinasa Nnesi, Enyidiya Ekelemi, Okesanya Omoadoni, Titi Ajayi, Alabi Mustapha, Omatayo Sunday, Okoghene Henry, Leziga Mitee, Tomi Joseph and Tunde Anibaba.

Homework

1. I don’t like the — in which he spoke.

    (a) mannerism (b) manner (c) manners (d)mannerlessness

1. “You have … to thank God,” the pastor told the woman.

       (a) cost (b) cause (c) course (d) coarse

1. My concern is on the … of the programme.

     (a) sustainance (b) sustaning (c) sustenance (d) sustained

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