Good word for old person

Although it has been awhile, we have been discussing what words we like and don’t like to describe old persons since the earliest days of this blog 15 years ago and there is still not a consensus among us or anyone else.

From past posts, my views are well-known and not counting quotations from others, I don’t stray from my personal preferences: old, old person, elder and that’s about it.

Not senior or senior citizen and certainly not “older adult” and “older person” which use the comparative adjective as a synonym for “old” in the false belief that it’s more polite or somehow doesn’t mean the person referenced is old. Come on now, of course it does. Why shilly-shally around.

“Elderly” is another term I eschew as it generally refers to people who are old and medically infirm to differing degrees while implying that all old people are sick or disabled by virtue only of their age and therefore lesser than younger people.

I also don’t use cutesy-pooh names like “oldster”, “golden-ager” or “third-ager”, and unless I am referring to a person we know was born between 1946 and 1964, I don’t use the word, “boomer.”

In surveys, baby boomers say they don’t mind that term as a synonym for old, failing to understand, I guess, that it refers to their specific generation and not all old people up until dead.

There are, give or take, 30 million of us in the U.S. — still very much alive — who were born before and during World War II who do not share the attributes assigned to the boomer generation. Personally, I dislike being lumped with them; we are older, have different experiences, attitudes and outlooks.

A few days ago, the Wall Street Journal took on this long-ongoing debate in a short report titled, “Forget ‘Senior’ — Boomers Search For a Better Term”, which you can read here [pdf].

I will let it go that, from the context, the WSJ reporter seems to believe “boomer” is a synonym for all old people. Further, Laura Carstensen, director of the Stanford Center on Longevity, tells the Journal that people don’t like the word “old”:

“For a long time, Dr. Carstensen, 64, tried to get people to call themselves old and be proud of reaching advanced age. Getting others to embrace the term was a tough sell, she says. Other, more positive terms, such as sage, don’t always apply either. ‘There are a whole bunch of older people who are nothing close to wise,’ she says. She prefers perennial…”

As does former Secretary of State Madeleine Allbright. But I agree with Daniel Reingold, CEO of Riverspring Health, a nursing, rehabilitation and managed care company in New York: perennial “sounds like a plant,” he says.

Reingold says his company has struggled through the years to come up with appropriate wording around this issue.

”He prefers ‘older adults,’” reports the WSJ, “which he thinks is neutral and accurate. ‘The difference between a 90-year-old and a 40-year-old is that one adult is older,’ he says. He’s just not sure when the term starts to kick in: ‘I’m 64 and I’m not sure I want to be called an older adult.’”

Oh just stop it. Everyone, stop it. If you are asking the question about when being old “kicks in”, you’re there.

Referring again to Carstensen’s declaration about urging people to feel “proud” of their advanced age, I disagree again. What is there to be proud of? Why should anyone be proud of being old any more than claiming pride for being 17 or 36 or 52 or any other age?

Pride of years makes no sense to me. All ages are equally valid. Unless we die young, we each go through all of them. There is nothing unique or special about a certain age compared to another.

To use respectful words won’t suddenly do away with ageism but over the long haul, it will contribute to easing that particular prejudice. Given how far we have not come in regard to racism (for just one example), that haul will be particularly long given that so many people – including millions of old people themselves – deny that ageism exists.

Elders who think ageism is not real or is not important often say, “Age is just a number.” No it is not, not if you can’t get a job, are denied medical care or are cruelly dismissed and ignored due to the number of your years.

In regard to choice of words about anything, I do my best always come down on the sides of fact and clarity – something we should all be well tutored in these days while enduring this bizarre era of daily “fake news” accusations from the president of the United States.

For better and worse, language is used every day to persuade, manipulate, exhalt, denounce and more. Let’s make sure we each use it with respect for everyone including elders. Language matters.

What do you think should be preferred terms for old people? And why?

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When Does Someone Become ‘Old’?

It’s surprisingly hard to find a good term for people in late life.

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Once people are past middle age, they’re old. That’s how life progresses: You’re young, you’re middle-aged, then you’re old.

Of course, calling someone old is generally not considered polite, because the word, accurate though it might be, is frequently considered pejorative. It’s a label that people tend to shy away from: In 2016, the Marist Poll asked American adults if they thought a 65-year-old qualified as old. Sixty percent of the youngest respondents—those between 18 and 29—said yes, but that percentage declined the older respondents were; only 16 percent of adults 60 or older made the same judgment. It seems that the closer people get to old age themselves, the later they think it starts.

Overall, two-thirds of the Marist Poll respondents considered 65 to be “middle-aged” or even “young.” These classifications are a bit perplexing, given that, well, old age has to start sometime. “I wouldn’t say [65] is old,” says Susan Jacoby, the author of Never Say Die: The Myth and Marketing of the New Old Age, “but I know it’s not middle age—how many 130-year-olds do you see wandering around?”

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The word old, with its connotations of deterioration and obsolescence, doesn’t capture the many different arcs a human life can trace after middle age. This linguistic strain has only gotten more acute as average life spans have grown longer and, especially for wealthier people, healthier. “Older adults now have the most diverse life experiences of any age group,” Ina Jaffe, a reporter at NPR who covers aging, told me in an email. “Some are working, some are retired, some are hitting the gym every day, others suffer with chronic disabilities. Some are traveling around the world, some are raising their grandchildren, and they represent as many as three different generations. There’s no one term that can conjure up that variety.”

So if 65-year-olds—or 75-year-olds, or 85-year-olds—aren’t “old,” what are they? As Jaffe’s phrasing suggests, American English speakers are converging on an answer that is very similar to old but has another syllable tacked on as a crucial softener: older. The word is gaining popularity not because it is perfect—it presents problems of its own—but because it seems to be the least imperfect of the many descriptors English speakers have at their disposal.

In general, those terms tend to be fraught or outmoded. Take senior, for instance. “Senior is one of the most common euphemisms for old people, and happens to be the one I hate the most,” Jacoby told me. To her, senior implies that people who receive the label are different, and somehow lesser, than those who don’t. “Think about voters from 18 to 25 … Imagine if a newspaper called them juniors instead of young voters,” she said. (Of course, the word senior can also be used to signify experience and endow prestige—as in senior vice president of marketing—but not all older people interpret it that way in the context of later life.) Additional knocks against the term include its potential ambiguity (inconveniently, it’s also the term for fourth-year high schoolers) and frequent imprecision (it’s often paired with the word citizen, even though not every older resident of the U.S. is an American citizen).

Meanwhile, elderly, a term that was more common a generation ago, is hardly neutral—it’s often associated with frailty and limitation, and older people generally don’t identify with it. “If you ask a room of people at a senior center who there is a member of ‘the elderly,’ you might get only reluctant hands or none,” Clara Berridge, a gerontologist at the University of Washington School of Social Work, posited in an email. “The fact that people don’t often voluntarily relate to this term is a strong reason to not apply it to them.”

Other, less common words don’t seem fit for everyday use either. Aging is accurate but vague—everyone is aging all the time. Retiree doesn’t apply to an older person who never worked or hasn’t stopped working, and, further, can suggest that someone’s employment status is her defining feature. Geriatric is precise, but sounds far too clinical. Elder can be appropriative—the word is common in some Native American and African American communities—and besides, could imply wisdom in people who lack it.

Euphemisms, too, are clearly out: References to one’s “golden years” and to old people as “sages” or “super adults” strain to gloss over the realities of old age. “Phrases such as ‘70 is the new 50’ reflect a ‘pos­itive aging’ discourse, which suggests that the preferred way of being old is to not be old at all, but rather to maintain some image of middle-age functionality and appearance,” Berridge wrote in a 2017 academic article she co-authored.

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Of course, old hasn’t gone entirely out of circulation. In fact, it was popular with some of the experts I spoke with, who were unfazed by it. “I actually think those of us who are in our 60s and beyond ought to reclaim old,” Karl Pillemer, a professor of human development at Cornell University, told me. “[For] someone like me, who’s lived at least two-thirds of his natural life span, I have no objection at all to being called an old person, but I understand that has connotations for people.”

Those “connotations” get at one reason the aforementioned panoply of terms remains inadequate, and why searching for a better word than old isn’t an unnecessary concession to older people’s sensitivities: Language can’t eradicate society-wide biases against old age. “I’d argue that the reason there isn’t consensus about a preferred term has everything to do with ageism rather than that the terms themselves are problematic,” Elana Buch, an anthropologist at the University of Iowa, said in an email. “As long as being ‘old’ is something to avoid at all costs (literally, ‘anti-aging’ is a multibillion-dollar industry), people will want to avoid being identified as such.”

Aware of these biases, Buch has come to favor the terms older adults and older people in both academic writing and everyday conversation, explaining that those phrases are “simple, descriptive, and foreground the personhood/adulthood of the people being described.” Pillemer made a similar point: Unlike other categories and labels, older is a descriptor that “people can move into without having it seem like it’s a whole different category of human being.”

“I think you’re going to see a movement almost entirely to ‘older adults’ or ‘older people,’ ” Pillemer said. “I don’t know anybody, either in advocacy, professional gerontology, or personally, who finds those terms offensive.”

That movement has already begun. Kory Stamper, a lexicographer and an author, told me that the phrase older adults has become much more common in the past 15 years, a period of time during which senior and senior citizen have seen sharp declines in usage. That’s according to the Corpus of Contemporary American English, a database of more than 600 million words collected from newspapers, novels, speeches, and other sources that Stamper said offers a “quick view of modern American English.” The database also indicates that elderly, mature, and aging have been falling in popularity over the past 30 years.

Older may be catching on because it seems to irritate the smallest number of people. Ina Jaffe, the NPR journalist, found early on in her reporting on old age that people had strong reactions to the existing linguistic palette. Several years ago, curious to get a better sense of which terms people liked and which they didn’t, she helped arrange a poll on the NPR website soliciting opinions. Older adult was “the winner … though you can’t say there was any real enthusiasm for it among our poll takers. Just 43 percent of them said they liked it,” she explained on air. Elder and senior had roughly 30 percent approval ratings.

“I’ve come to the conclusion that there isn’t any good term for older adults besides, well, older adults,” Jaffe told me recently. Other important shapers of language have come to that conclusion as well. Older has become the preferred nomenclature in many academic journals and dictionary definitions. The New York Times’ stylebook says of the word elderly, “Use this vague term with care,” and advises, “For general references, consider older adults, or, sparingly, seniors.” Juliana Horowitz, a researcher at the Pew Research Center, which often segments its survey respondents along demographic lines, said the organization tends to go with older adults.

(A popular alternative, of course, is to forgo broad labels and specify the ages in question. Pew often mentions the age cutoffs for its generational cohorts, and the New York Times stylebook prefers people in their 70s or people over 80 to elderly. Referring to a broader group, “A term we often use is people age 50 and up and/or people 50-plus,” said Jo Ann Jenkins, the CEO of AARP. “It’s factual and commonsense.”)

Older is not without its downsides, though. First, it’s not common to say “younger people,” but, rather, just “young people”—an unpleasant asymmetry, and an implicit acknowledgment that young doesn’t carry disagreeable associations like old does. Second, it is a relative term without a clear comparison: Older … than whom, exactly? And third, as Berridge, the gerontologist, pointed out, “‘older adult’ implies a younger adult age as the unspoken norm.” Still, she told me, “I use ‘older adult’ because it seems like the least-bad option at this point in time.”

Replacements for all these existing terms—older as well as the words it’s gradually displacing—have been proposed over the years. For at least a couple of decades, gerontological researchers have been making a distinction between the young old (typically those in their 60s and 70s) and the old old (definitions vary, but 85 and up is common). Another academic term is third age, which refers to the period after retirement but before the fourth age of infirmity and decline (which some would argue unjustly legitimizes distinctions based on physical abilities). Perennials, an inventive, plant-inspired label intended to convey lasting value and consistent renewal, is another contender.

But none of these has caught on outside the realms of academic research and op-eds. “If I had to pick a track down which the language will gallop,” said Stamper, the lexicographer, “then my guess is older is probably the word that we’ll default to, because we haven’t taken any of these other coinages and run with them yet.”

In the absence of a neologism that sticks, older is a more or less satisfactory solution to this linguistic problem. But that adjective, like any other term associated with old age, is silent on how old people must be for it to be applied to them. Attempts to work that out get at the true essence of life’s later stages.

Policy makers have their own narrow answer. “In the research world and in the policy world, [65] is the number people use to demarcate entry into old age,” says Laura Carstensen, the director of Stanford University’s Center on Longevity. “It’s been reified: You’re eligible for Social Security, for Medicare …and the research literature is focused on people 65 and older, so even though 65 doesn’t mean anything in any real way, it has come to represent real things.”

But this number, 65, is more or less arbitrary—there’s certainly no biological basis for it. “For policy-planning purposes, ‘over 75’ is a much more meaningful demographic than ‘over 65,’ ” says Karl Pillemer. Statistically, that’s the age when people become significantly more likely to develop a chronic disease, he notes. “People between the ages of 65 and 75 are often more similar to people in middle age.”

Even then, focusing on a particular number seems misguided. “Chronological age is a very poor measure of almost anything by the time you get to 65,” Carstensen says. “Take two 65-year-old people … One can [have dementia], and the other could be, you know, a Supreme Court justice. So it doesn’t tell you much.”

Picking other delineators—perhaps employment status or dependence on caregivers—might get around the issue Carstensen articulated but could introduce other problems; those two examples in particular would risk putting undue emphasis on people’s ability to work or live independently.

Ideally, a definition of old age would capture a sense of things ending, or at least getting closer to ending. All those people who call 65 “middle-aged” aren’t delusional—they probably just don’t want to be denied their right to have ambitions and plans for the stretch of their life that’s still ahead of them, even if that stretch is a lot shorter than the one behind them.

Susan Jacoby, the author of Never Say Die, suggested a definition of old age that addresses this elegantly. She told me that, in her 20s, she made lifelong friends, some of them 10 or 15 years older than she was, while working at The Washington Post. Now that she’s 74, she comes across obituaries for those old friends. “What I think of as old is an age when you start seeing people you know in the obituary column,” she told me. “I think of middle age as a time when you’re not afraid to look at the obituaries, because you assume that the people who have died you’re not going to know.” Even if her definition doesn’t help us figure out how to refer to others, it is poignant, personalized, and flexible—and will likely age well.

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  • #5

You seem to be looking for a euphemism, csicska. «Old man» and «old woman» are plain terms that some people might prefer, but they are not euphemisms that are designed to take the sting out of plain language.

Barque’s suggestion makes sense to me. There’s no need to add anything to «gentleman», «lady», «man» or «woman» in a remark about somebody’s right to a seat. I hate euphemisms, but I don’t ordinarily go out of my way to offend others with harsh language either.

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owlman5


  • #9

There you have it, csicska. There is no consensus in here on a polite term for «old». Some people suggest «elderly». Others don’t like it. You’ll have to choose something that satisfies you and rest content with that choice.

There are a lot of English-speakers in the world, and you’ll likely offend or annoy somebody no matter what you say. Try not to let that worry you too much. If you do, you’ll have to whisper everything you say or use another language for the rest of your life. The moral authority who first suggested «elderly» as a polite substitute for «old» was probably self-appointed anyhow.:rolleyes:

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  • #12

It would be best to say «offer your seat to the lady.» And then when you’re off the bus and she can’t hear you anymore, explain that the lady was elderly and you should be more respectful and give her extra help.

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We live in an era where growing old is a privilege. In fact, young people can only wish to grow as old as the oldest person they know.

That said, do you know any older person in your circles? Do you work with the elderly? How old is old anyway?

To effectively answer this question, I guess the question is not “what is another name for old people? We should be seeking to know what older people want to be called.

Dive in and let’s learn the proper way to label the age group of between 65 and 100+.

How Old Is Old?

Most people retire once they hit 65. This is the age considered the beginning of old age. A decent number of 65-year-olds are still healthy, productive, and physically active. Even so, they are still considered “older” people.

Real old age sets in at about age 75. This is when a good number of people experience some level of both vision and hearing loss.

You are without a doubt old if you are 85 years and above. At this point, it is common to walk slower, use a hearing aid, and perhaps even use a cane. It’s common for people to have physical limitations at this age, although this does not necessarily strip them of their independence.

According to the World Health Organization, old age begins at 60. The World Economic Forum (WEF), on the other hand, measures old age according to “prospective age.” This simply refers to your current age in comparison to your life expectancy.

Older Adult, Older Person, Senior, Elderly or Elder

Senior citizen, retiree, elder, older adult, older person, golden ager— what do older people want to be called?

Unfortunately, whatever term you use will not be good enough for some people who are older than 60. Someone is likely to get offended even if you label them a golden ager.

Let’s learn about some of the terms and euphemisms for older citizens.

This is a term used worldwide to refer to people above the age of 65

  • Senior

Polite name for retirees mainly used in America

  • Senior Citizen

 Americans and the British use this term to refer to anyone above 65

  • Older Adult

Anyone using this label to refer to retirees is possibly into social sciences

  • Elderly and Elder

Most people feel that the word elderly is a straight slap in the face. They also feel that “elder” is okay because it does not subject one to age discrimination. It also sounds like a term of respect.

We can all agree that no one, not even the oldest person in the world, wants to be called old. While elder may sound pretentious, it is less likely to leave you brushing shoulders with that older lady leaving across the street.

How Good Is “Senior”?

In terms of political correctness, “older adult” and “older person” are the best titles to use. However, “senior” or “senior citizen” is a little dignified, more so because of commonly used terms like “senior discounts.”

All the same, a lot of older adults don’t like being called seniors. While this term is not bad for some, how good it is may differ from one person to another.

How About “Oldie”? 

It’s the modern era, and people are bound to use slang words like “oldie” and “oldy.” You can trust Gen Xers even to call you an “Oldie Goldie.”

Whether you find this term impolite or not is not much of a concern. According to young people below the age of 30, this title simply tells it like it is. It, however, brings humor into the context, making the word more polite and less offensive.

Why Is “Old” Offensive?

Let’s face it; nobody wants to admit to being “old.” You don’t even want anyone to call your old shirt “old.” For this simple reason, you best not refer to anyone as “old”—not even a 90-year-old.

Moreover, you may want to avoid using colorful slang like a fogey, geezer, and oldster. These terms are out of favor in the current era and are considered jokey names.

So, why do people fear the label “old”?

Forgive my brutal honesty, but “old” sounds like a few steps closer to loss of vision, dependency on hearing aid, and ailing from deadly diseases like cancer. In fact, that term “old” sounds like a few breaths to death. This is why people have no problem saying “teens” but will shy away from using terms as polite as “senior citizens.”

What Do Old Folks Want To Be Called?

Deep down, a lot of seniors are proud of their age. However, they still don’t want to be called “old.

Embracing this fact is just as important as it is for the older generation to embrace their age.

Some of the polite terms to use include:-

  • Seniors
  • Older adults
  • Older people
  • Retirees
  • Pensioners

Here’s the deal, these terms will still sound like an insult in some people’s ears. On the other hand, some will see them as a sign of respect.

Conclusion

From where I stand, it’s better to call a spade a spade. Whether you use senior, elder, oldster, or older adult, someone may find these terms patronizing and annoying.

Coming up with the correct term to use is hard. The best you can do is sound as polite as possible.

If you are an older person, remember that you’re merely as old as you feel. After all, age is nothing but a number.

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