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Hello.

I have read carefully the threads on «middle name» ; however one of them is closed, and I still have a doubt:

In The US many people have two first names (Joana Louise, Norma Jean)
Others have a middle name, that may come from an originally surname (John.

Fitzgerald

Kennedy, Lyndon

Baines

Johnson, Richard

Milhous

Nixon)

Could you, please, tell me in the following cases if the underlined is a second Christian name or a middle name?

eg.

Johh

Fitzgerald

Kennedy — surname
Thomas

Woodrow

Wilson — surname

Norma Jean

Mortenson- 2 first names

Barack Hussein

Obama- 2 first names?

Also, from what I see, middle names are more common with men names and double fisrt names are more common in women. Right?

Thank you in advance.

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John

Fitzgerald

Kennedy — 1 surname
Thomas

Woodrow

Wilson — 1 surname

Norma Jean

Mortenson- 2 first names

Barack Hussein

Obama- 2 first names

In all four cases, we call the first name a first name* or given name. We call the second the middle name (whether or not it was originally a surname). We call the third the last name or surname (it’s usually, but not always or necessarily, the surname of the person’s father).

*In BE, I believe it’s forename.

This is more an American phenomenon, so I’ll let them answer it.

Usually in the UK people are known by their first and last name only, and no one knows people’s middle names. Middle names are mostly redundant, but some people choose to use them instead. My aunt, for example is known by her middle name by all the family, but all her friends use her first name.

Hyphenated first names are considered one name. «Double barreled» surnames are hyphenated and indicate either being posh or hoping to be, usually.

DonnyB

At the risk of hijacking this thread into a discussion of how naming practices vary from country to country, the practice in the UK has traditionally been for a «middle» name to be synonymous with a second Christian name, although some people do have a «family name» as their middle name. Not everyone has a middle name (I don’t, in fact) and some people have more than one. It’s largely a matter of personal preference over here which name you choose to use and we don’t follow the American practice of saying «John Fitgerald Kennedy» unless specifically asked to give our name in full.

I agree Donny. My dad’s middle name is his grandfather’s surname.

Some people — particular women — are commonly known and addressed by their first two names: they in effect form a two-word single name, and it might or might not be hyphenated. This is more common in the USA, with women called things like Bobbi Jo. The second element is often Jo, Jane, or Anne. Her friends say, ‘Hi, Bobbi Jo.’ But it is not exclusively US: the British conductor Sir John Eliot Gardiner is addressed as John Eliot, and the Doctor Who companion Sarah Jane Smith was commonly known as Sarah Jane.

Otherwise, the middle name is a middle name whether it’s of the type used as a forename or a surname. Chelsea Clinton’s middle name is Victoria, a forename, but she’s not addressed as Chelsea Victoria.

To add to the confusion, take a look at http://www.sheknows.com/parenting/articles/851767/good-ole-southern-baby-names.

In the American South, double given names (forenames) are often used. See the section at the above-referenced page called «Double Names of the South.»

The name of the former bureau manager of the UPI news service in Portland, Oregon was «Billy Joe.» Whether it was listed as a double given name or a given- +middle name on his birth certificate, I have no idea. The birth certificate is the defining document in all cases, regardless of what a person is called.

Another note is that he importance of using a middle name has grown substantially in the U.S. because of security considerations. A passport must match a birth certificate and many states now demand that a driver’s license match a birth certificate and/or passport as well.

And, some airlines are getting sticky about the name on a ticket matching that of the traveler’s identification, including any and all middle names. The same is true for banks and bank accounts.

Myridon

In The US many people have two first names (Joana Louise, Norma Jean)
Others have a middle name, that may come from an originally surname (John.

Fitzgerald

Kennedy, Lyndon

Baines

Johnson, Richard

Milhous

Nixon)

This distinction that you’re making between «real» first names and names that were originally surnames is somewhat mistaken as well. Many «first names» come from surnames — Nelson, Wyatt, etc.
First names and middle names are just names.

A first (given) name can have two parts. I have a friend whose first name is Jo Ann. The «Ann» is not her middle name; she has one of those too, and it’s different. It is the second part of her first name. Her name is almost the same as JoAnn, but her parents chose to spell it with a space. That does not make it two names. In this case each of its parts could be a name by itself, but here they’re not.

This is similar to the situation with family names, where something like «St. Clair,» «von Weisel» or «de la Torre» is not unusual. All these have a space, but that does not make them two names. They are each one name with two or three parts.

I agree with everything that has been said here. Sometimes a person will use three names and it is difficult to tell whether the second name is a middle name or part of a double, but unhyphenated, surname. For example, take the actor (who was a teen heart throb in the early ’90s) Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Was Taylor his middle name? Or was Taylor Thomas his last name? (I think Taylor was his middle name but I don’t really care.)

To make matters even more complicated, a married woman will often use her maiden name as a middle name, like Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy. And to make matters still more complex, when a woman is married to someone famous but later marries someone else, the media will tack her first married name in the middle, like Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, even though this is not correct.

Could you, please, tell me in the following cases if the underlined is a second Christian name or a middle name?

Johh

Fitzgerald

Kennedy — surname
Thomas

Woodrow

Wilson — surname

Norma Jean

Mortenson- 2 first names

Barack Hussein

Obama- 2 first names?
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Woodrow is a first name — it’s where the nickname «Woody» comes from. Hussein can be either a first or last name in Arabic, I believe.

«Middle name» is just the term for this second given name — it doesn’t necessarily refer to the type of name it is. Whether it’s normally a first or last name, if it’s the second part of your name, we call it a middle name.

There are no real rules about what a middle name should be. Some families use the mother’s maiden name as the middle name, so that both the maternal and paternal families are represented. But more often, parents choose a second first name. Some parents do this so that the child can choose to use it if he/she doesn’t like the first name. Often, parents try to choose a middle name that «sounds good» when you say the person’s full name (first, middle, last) out loud.

Certain names seem to get picked specifically as middle names frequently. For example, I’ve known many girls/women whose middle name was Marie, whereas it’s not all that common of a first name in the United States (as opposed to francophone countries, where it’s obviously extremely common).

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I live in the UK and I have a foreign name of the form

Abcd Efghjk

where both words and the space are part of my first name. Due to common UK standard everyone usually assumes either that Efghjkl is my surname or, more often, that Efghjkl is my middle name and proceeds to omit it.

I am fine when people omit it in speech, as Abcd is an acceptable shortening of my name, but I really detest it when I receive emails starting with

Dear Abcd,

instead of the appropriate

Dear Abcd Efghjkl,

I usually let it slide whenever I know this is a one off interaction and point it out at some point otherwise.

Lately I have been at times adding a remark at the end of my emails:

Just to let you know, my first name is Abcd Efghjkl, with the space. I know, it’s crazy!

I would like suggestions on how to deal with this very common occurrence. I see two options, but feel free to add more.

Keep such a message on a need-to basis, in which case I am looking for suggestions to make it more pleasant. Especially, I am not trying to make the other party feel guilty for the misspelling. I am not mad, this is a minor mistake and it’s comprehensible given the running convention in the UK. Ideally, if there was a graphical/non-confrontational way to silently point this out, I would resort to that.
Add a fixed message in my signature either with the same tone of the above or a little more formal. I am a little concerned that this might look odd and somewhat aggressive though.

Any suggestions?

PS: I write here as most of my daily contacts where this interaction happens are academics.

Edit: I am referring to my first name in the above, I do have a family name or surname as well, which in our notation and taking some suggestions from the answers, would be: MNOPQR.

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England According to statistics, all English children are given two names at birth — personal (first name) and middle (middle). The custom of giving a child a middle name goes back to the tradition of giving a newborn a number of personal names. … Often the surnames of the people in whose honor they are assigned are used as middle names.
Why do the British need a middle name? The main meaning of the second name is to give a person a certain personality. … The second name can be anything — from a common name to place names, common nouns, and so on. Very often, the second name is the surname of the person in whose honor the child was named.

Why do Americans have two names?

The tradition of the second (or middle name — middle name) among Americans has developed relatively recently, in the 6th century. … John Quincy Adams (1825th President of the United States, 1829–XNUMX) became the first head of the American state to receive a middle name at birth (in honor of his maternal great-grandfather).

Why do some people have 2 names?

e. All English children are given two names at birth (first + middle names): personal and middle. The practice of giving a child a middle name dates back to the tradition of giving a newborn a number of personal names. … Often the surnames of the people in whose honor it is assigned are used as middle names.

Why are there double names abroad?

The custom of giving newborns a double name arose relatively recently, since until the XNUMXth century, people were limited to one personal anthroponym and surname. … A way out of the situation was found thanks to the emergence of a middle name that met the aspirations of the parents and served as a sign of individual distinction.

What does JR mean in a name?

Graphic shorthand for junior (in names).

Is it possible to give double names in Russia?

You can choose any name for your child, including a double one. Article 18 of the Civil Status Act states that it is prohibited to give a name that “consists of numbers, alphanumeric designations, numerals, symbols and non-letter characters, with the exception of the hyphen or any combination thereof”.

Can I make a double name?

Today, many parents call their children double names. The most common reasons: Parents cannot agree on how to name the child, so they make a compromise decision — to give a double name. … Legislation does not impose any restrictions on the choice of a name.

Middle name (also middle name) is a name usually located between the personal name and the last name. Used as an element of a full name, mainly in Europe and Western countries.

What is the middle name of the Americans?

In British and American culture, it is not customary to give a middle name, since they are replaced by a middle or middle name. According to custom, such a name is also given in honor of a relative or a person who turned out to be significant for the family.

In what order should the first and last name be written in English?

And as a rule, in questionnaires, forms, etc., they write first name — first name, last name — last name. But where there are two different words in Russian, in English there is the same word name, only the first name is the “first”, and the surname is the “last”.

What to write in the middle name column?

The full Russian name should be written in English, like Ivan Petrov or Ivan Petrovich Petrov, but not like Ivan P. Petrov. Therefore, when filling out foreign documents, the Middle Name column should be left blank. Of course, you can specify your middle name as Middle name.

What are first and second names?

First Name — Name (from the English. First — First, first name); Last Name — Surname (from English Last — Last, middle name).

What are children called in England?

Oliver and Amelia topped the list of the most popular names for children in England and Wales for the second year in a row. According to the National Statistics Service, 6649 boys were named Oliver and 5327 girls were named Amelia. Jack, Harry and Jacob continue the list of the most popular names for boys.

What is a middle name for?

Patronymic — patronymic, an indication of the name of the father. … The patronymic as part of the nominal formula performs a triple function: it complements the name, distinguishing its owner (in addition to the surname) from the namesake, clarifies kinship in the family circle (father — son) and expresses respect (a form of politeness).

What are the American names?

The most common American male names are:

Noah — Noah
Liam — Liam
Mason — Mason
Jacob — Jacob
William — William / William
Ethan — Ethan
Michael — Michael
Alexander — Alexander

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Hi all,

My SO got his SSN back in the beginning of the year. His legal first name that we’ve used for everything from immigration paperwork, to financial accounts, to his drivers license, etc. has two «words». However, we found out recently that although his name somehow looks correct on his SSN card, the SSN «system» only allows for «single word first names» — or at least that’s what we were told at the SSN office earlier this week.

We had a couple of clues that something was off:
* He’s had credit cards for well over 6 months, but no matching records would come up in equifax/transunion/experian when trying to get his credit report.
* When he applied for a job, the employer said there was a «red flag» on his application due to «mismatched information», which we’re now thinking was because the first name didn’t match what’s in the SSN «system».
* Wasn’t able to sign up on ssa.gov, kept saying his first name was «invalid».

Now we’re not sure what to do about the situation. Anyone experienced something similar and have any advice?

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